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[xxxxxy] 07/1/2021 08:21

Exclusive: UK has already paid EU over £41 billion NET since voting leaveAnd we'll be paying the EU for Brexit for the next 44 years – why??© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2021A preliminary Facts4EU.Org report on the cost of the Brexit delays to dateIn all the talk about the UK-EU 'trade deal', it is all too easy to forget the concerns about many different aspects of what the UK Government has already agreed with the EU. One of these concerns is the so-called 'divorce bill' demanded by the EU and built into the EU's 'Withdrawal Agreement'.Brexit Facts4EU.Org is regularly asked by readers about this. Over the years we have published our research on the legal and financial aspects many times. If readers are interested, we could update the facts and figures, and produce a definitive, summary report?The £41 billion we've paid to the EU from mid-2016 to end-2020In the meantime, there's the small matter of £41 billion pounds... Below are the baseline figures for what the UK has already paid the EU since the UK electorate voted to leave the EU on 23 June 2016. Obviously these do not include all the payments which the EU is demanding from this year (2021) onwards.Please note: In this short summary today we are only quoting the minimum figures which are presented by the likes of HM Treasury, the Office for Budget Responsibility, and the House of Commons Library. As we have pointed out many times before, these do NOT include all payments to the EU. If we produce an updated report on the 'divorce bill' we will explain what these additional payments comprise.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYWhat we have already paid the EU since we voted to leave it?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeWhatever happened to the '£33bn settlement' to the EU?For the last few years a figure for the so-called 'divorce bill' of £33bn has been bandied around, by the Treasury and by commentators. It has then been explained to us that this original figure will be reduced because of the delays in implementing Brexit.What is never said is that the overall amount of money which the UK public will have paid to the EU, since the vote to leave, has increased significantly over the last few years. Above we show the official Government figures for just the years since the EU Referendum. This will be increased significantly by all the payments from this year onwards.What is also never said is that the amounts paid by the UK to the EU – both in the last four years from mid-2016 to end-2020, and which will be paid subsequently – do NOT include the UK's payments into the EU's massive 'off-budget' funds.OBSERVATIONSWould you like to know the facts about this 'divorce bill' – and just how much it is likely to cost us? Would you like to know why we will still be paying the EU in 2064? Would you like to know about 'the extras' which do not appear in the official summaries?Would you like to know when this was all agreed and who agreed it?SPOILER ALERT! -->You will not get this information from the BBC, Sky News, or ITN. You will not get it anywhere else either, to be perfectly frank.?Is this important?If you think that information like this is important and that it should be in the public domain, please help us to make this happen, by making a donation to our work today. We are struggling and we need your help. We have far more to do in researching, publishing, campaigning and lobbying Parliament than we have in terms of the financial resources to fulfil these tasks. We rely 100% on public donations from readers like you. Unlike the Remain/Rejoin camp, we do not have foreign billionaires to subsidise our work.Covid measures have hit many people's incomes. The whole Covid thing has certainly hit the level of donations we receive, which were already less than we needed to survive. We are most grateful to readers who have donated in recent days, but we badly need more readers to do the same.If you believe in a fully-free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom, please make a donation now. It's quick, secure, and confidential, and you can use one of the links below or you can use our Donations page here. You will receive a personal, friendly 'thank you' from a member of our team within 24 hours. Thank you so much if you can help to keep us going in these critical months ahead.[ Sources: HM Treasury | Office for Budget Responsibility ] Politicians and journalists can contact us for details, as ever.Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Thur 07 Jan 2021

[xxxxxy] 07/1/2021 08:19

John Redwood@johnredwood·28mA week after Brexit and Dover port working fine. Still no apologies from the Project Fear commentators and media forecasters.

[portside1] 07/1/2021 08:16

I made a mistake buying to early

[portside1] 07/1/2021 08:08

Should of waited till I woke up

[portside1] 07/1/2021 08:07

Made a mess buying this morning got two Lots of768712523Pressed the wrong place But got 20210 I wanted to add 21000

[leadersoffice] 07/1/2021 06:27

Heading to 40p

[xxxxxy] 07/1/2021 06:02

Growing the UK's haulage industryBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 7, 2021The UK has lost market share in long distance haulage. Lower labour rates and lower taxes on vehicles in parts of the EU have allowed undercutting of UK hauliers. The UK did introduce the HGV levy to require foreign hauliers to make some contribution to road costs in the UK, as otherwise their trucks did not pay VED and they often evaded refuelling here to take advantage of lower taxes elsewhere. This has been cancelled for a year.Now we are independent we need to reconsider our haulage industry. The first thing should be to restore the HGV levy on foreign trucks using our roads and to make sure the UK haulier does not pay twice for using our highways. The idea of the HGV charge was to make a charge for use of our roads by lorries not paying VED.We could look at the balance of containers that come to the UK unaccompanied and those coming with a tractor unit and driver from the continent. Maybe more could be brought in more cheaply by a continental driver delivering the container to an EU port and a UK driver picking it up at the UK harbour.The railway needs to bid for more of the longer distance work within the UK, offering single container or waggon marshalling at sufficient locations where UK drivers and haulage companies can pick up the load for the final delivery journey. This becomes more of an option with the decline of passenger use.

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:53

On the other hand, sad yes, but funny to watch CNN brainwashing their viewers... lol

[jl5006] 06/1/2021 22:52

The World Health Organization released a guidance memo on December 14th, warning that high cycle thresholds on PCR tests will result in false positives.

While this information is accurate, it has also been available for months, so we must ask: why are they reporting it now? Is it to make it appear the vaccine works?

The “gold standard” Sars-Cov-2 tests are based on polymerase chain reaction (PCR). PCR works by taking nucleotides – tiny fragments of DNA or RNA – and replicating them until they become something large enough to identify. The replication is done in cycles, with each cycle doubling the amount of genetic material. The number of cycles it takes to produce something identifiable is known as the “cycle threshold” or “CT value”. The higher the CT value, the less likely you are to be detecting anything significant.

This new WHO memo states that using a high CT value to test for the presence of Sars-Cov-2 will result in false-positive results.

To quote their own words [our emphasis]:

Users of RT-PCR reagents should read the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is necessary to account for any background noise which may lead to a specimen with a high cycle threshold (Ct) value result being interpreted as a positive result.

They go on to explain [again, our emphasis]:

The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain.

Of course, none of this is news to anyone who has been paying attention. That PCR tests were easily manipulated and potentially highly inaccurate has been one of the oft-repeated battle cries of those of us opposing the “pandemic̶1; narrative, and the policies it’s being used to sell.

Many articles have been written about it, by many experts in the field, medical journalists and other researchers. It’s been commonly available knowledge, for months now, that any test using a CT value over 35 is potentially meaningless.

Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR process, was clear that it wasn’t meant as a diagnostic tool, saying:

with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.”

And, commenting on cycle thresholds, once said:

If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

The MIQE guidelines for PCR use state:

Cq values higher than 40 are suspect because of the implied low efficiency and generally should not be reported,”

This has all been public knowledge since the beginning of the lockdown. The Australian government’s own website admitted the tests were flawed, and a court in Portugal ruled they were not fit for purpose.

Even Dr Anthony Fauci has publicly admitted that a cycle threshold over 35 is going to be detecting “dead nucleotides”, not a living virus.

Despite all this, it is known that many labs around the world have been using PCR tests with CT values over 35, even into the low 40s.

So why has the WHO finally decided to say this is wrong? What reason could they have for finally choosing to recognise this simple reality?

The answer to that is potentially shockingly cynical: We have a vaccine now. We don’t need false positives anymore.

Notionally, the system has produced its miracle cure. So, after everyone has been vaccinated, all the PCR tests being done will be done “under the new WHO guidelines”, and running only 25-30 cycles instead of 35+.

Lo and behold, the number of “positive cases” will plummet, and we’ll have confirmation that our miracle vaccine works.

After months of flooding the data pool with false positives, miscounting deaths “by accident”, adding “Covid19 related death” to every other death certificate…they can stop. The create-a-pandemic machine can be turned down to zero again.

…as long as we all do as we’re told. Any signs of dissent – masses of people refusing the vaccine, for example – and the CT value can start t

[aceuk] 06/1/2021 22:44

I guess it's all controlled by an algorithm - you people are quite mad 😠

[jl5006] 06/1/2021 22:42

So the PCR test appears flawed- 97% failure rate.
Who developed it and who deemed it serviceable. Is there a counter argument?
Y only on this BB - y is this not on the front pages?

Y because the media dont want to print the doubt or the truth.
IMHO hard not to see that there are areas of concern - should the comments be founded - then the world is being led by the biggest WOSs ever.
Guess even without Sars2 that would be true.

[portside1] 06/1/2021 22:41

But it has turned trump insane

[portside1] 06/1/2021 22:40

All this because of two filthy liars two evil people Nanny polosi Obama The two who are worse than HIMMLER by miles

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:33

CNN "Trump tells supporters to go home..."The right thing to do.

[sikhthetech] 06/1/2021 22:29

Trump is a disgrace. His supporters attacking Capitol Hill is very undemocratic.

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:23

DrOn China.. they struck a deal with EU recently... with Brussels ignoring human rights and workers rights...who you think will come out on top ? Good guess...;))

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:12

On that I agree 100%.. as I said, Trump was and never will be a politician.

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:11

China was building to become a super power from 2 decades ago... you don't become a economic power overnight.As Russians have nothing to gain from this fraud.

[diku] 06/1/2021 22:08

Trump had a fantastic opportunity to use the Covid situation to his advantage which just happened to be during election year...instead he made a complete hash of it the way he dealt with it...

[dr biotech] 06/1/2021 22:04

Seems the best they could do on proving the fraud was

1) a postal worker with disciplinary issues (that trump called a great patriot) the decided he didn’t actually hear what he claimed

2) a former stripper and convicted felon who even Guiliani tried to hush in court

3) the key witness in the laughable kraken, was a protrump podcaster who worked for the CIA for less than a year, about 20 years ago. No wonder it’s got nowhere. May be enough to convince the gullible or those that want to believe.

Twitter/YouTube not admissible in court.

Biggest winners tonight, China/Russia and other authoritarian regimes.

[k38] 06/1/2021 22:04

The Russians again...a Democrats vampire story to put kids to bed......lolI agree the man is not politician, he has no idea how to win the moment, don't know how to speak as politicians (lie) do.. but was good for ordinary Americans. His problem is...He doesn't know how and when to give up.