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[xxxxxy] 15/11/2020 11:47

George Smith15 Nov 2020 9:10AMOh grow up.Only 12% of the UK GDP comes from exporting to the EU. Most of that is subject to negligible tariffs and quotas, per WTO rules.Exceptions are agriculture and autos, the two sectors where EU protectionism is greatest.Under what fantasy do you think that the UK will be "completely destroyed" without a deal?... Daily Telegraph

[asa8] 15/11/2020 11:43

I fear blm more than covid if Johnson doesn’t open up everything in December he’s toast his own will out him

[minerve 2] 15/11/2020 11:37

RIP Des O'Connor

I liked him.

[minerve 2] 15/11/2020 11:35

Come on Utricky, Euros are always better when Scotland are there.

[maxidi] 15/11/2020 10:51

Barnodo's make a massive mistake in the 'woke' department....

[alphorn] 15/11/2020 10:18

Good read max. Little time to take back control - in any form.

[polar fox] 15/11/2020 09:55

A great read, maxk. Good spot.

The comments on the article are well worth a read too.

[scruff1] 15/11/2020 09:47

Interesting bit about HSBC and STAN and their support for the national security law imposed by China. Lisa Nandy wants Raab to take them to task and remind them of their obligations concerning human rights. I suppose at the end of the day they either support the security law or pack their bags. Isnt that what the politicians are really saying? I dont know what the two banks should do but it would be nice for politicians to say what they mean for once.
Talking of which I see' allies of DC say CS held a celebration party in her No 10 flat'. Friends of CS say there was no celebration. There you have it as always in politics the choice is between whose lies you prefer to suit your own beliefs

[maxk] 15/11/2020 09:17

"so now we have the clownish horror of Bertie Wooster playing Churchill."


Who’ll grab the steering wheel from out-of-control Johnson?

By
Daniel Miller
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November 15, 2020




WHEN the history of the West’s collapse into collective madness and convergent opportunism is finally written, one of the most psychologically disturbing chapters will consider the career of Boris Johnson. How did the political culture of a great nation degrade to the extent that it promoted such a man to a leader? And how long will this broken personality continue to explode his psychodrama on a national scale?

Britain’s disastrous reaction to an unremarkable disease has been shaped by the pathologies of the Prime Minister at every point. On the eve of Johnson’s election to the leadership of the most distinguished parliamentary party in the world he was living in a bedsit in south London with his pregnant mistress following the immolation of his 25-year marriage, his battered Previa GX collecting parking tickets in the street. Today, he is the animating spirit of a government combining incompetence, corruption and mendacity in equal measure.

Panicking and hiding when the situation called for judgment and composure, Johnson’s leadership over the last 11 months echoes the general pattern of his life. The atmosphere of pseudoreality in which Britain now is frozen descends from him, as he squirms to evade accountability for the catastrophe he’s engineered, piling destruction on destruction, fiction on fiction, lie on lie.

Why has Johnson repeatedly allowed deliberately misleading charts based on manipulated data to terrify the British public into complying with a lockdown policy that evidently could not otherwise be justified? It is impossible to think the Government does not know what we know: that the virus has an average age of mortality of 82, higher than the UK life expectancy, and an infection fatality rate of less than 0.2 per cent. Why have the British economy been ruined and the British people terrorised for this ultimately trivial disease?

In fabricating a legal pretext for enacting an illegal lockdown, Johnson breached constitutional precedents stretching back centuries to arrogate blunt coercive powers on a gigantic scale. These precedents cannot be easily repaired, but what is crucial for the moment is to prevent any further damage being done. As things stand, Britain is on the road to a totalitarian society.

Johnson’s litany of failures is now almost too long to recall in its entirety. Taken in isolation, each one should have led to his departure from high office. Taken together, they conceal each other, just like the scale of the catastrophe of Johnson’s private life destroys the sense of perspective necessary for judgement. ‘The countless times when he lets people down subliminally readjust our expectations,’ Rory Stewart notes in his review of Tom Bower’s new biography, ‘so that on the rare occasions when Johnson does what is required . . . it appears a sign of heroic diligence.’




Full article here:

[alphorn] 15/11/2020 09:16

stoned - have you looked in a mirror recently? Rigor mortis setting in I expect.

[xxxxxy] 15/11/2020 08:41

Dominic Raab has been urged to take the bosses of HSBC and Standard Chartered to task as concerns over the banks' support for a controversial law in Hong Kong deepens.  Lisa Nandy, the shadow foreign secretary, said Mr Raab must "take a tougher stance" and warn bank chiefs Noel Quinn and Bill Winters that there are "consequences" for companies that fail to uphold human rights responsibilities under OECD guidelines. "So far as I understand it, nobody in government has approached HSBC and Standard Chartered to remind them of their responsibilities," she said. "It would be extremely welcome to have a clear statement from HSBC and Standard Chartered disassociating themselves from that national security law.".. Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 15/11/2020 08:12

matthuPosted November 15, 2020 at 6:59 am | PermalinkHas parliament had any open debate about The Great Reset and what it means for property ownership (or lack thereof) and democracy (or lack thereof)?

[xxxxxy] 15/11/2020 08:08

New advisersBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: NOVEMBER 15, 2020As the Prime Minister looks for new advisers he needs a select cast who will help him develop and communicate his strategic vision of our country and our future as we leave the single market and customs union and learn to live with the virus.He needs help to build more bridges with Ministers and backbench MPs and to shape the resources and powers of government for a distinctive and positive approach to the future. There is plenty of talent and experience on the backbenches which needs enthusing and mobilising in many ways.There are three immediate priorities, which have to be tackled together and are critically interlinked. The first is the secure a clean exit from the EU, with or without the preferred free trade deal, with no more slippage. Indeed, there will not be a free trade deal of an acceptable kind unless the clear resolution of the UK to just leave is believed by the EU.The second is to put in place a full range of approaches to the virus as we await further breakthroughs from medical science, so we can live more normal lives and get the economy back to work whilst protecting the vulnerable and limiting the spread of the disease. I have often commented here on the initiatives we need to extend or develop to winnow down the impact of this virus.The third is to do everything we can to promote and sustain recovery. We need more and better paid jobs, more and more profitable small businesses, more home grown food and home produced goods.The Prime Minister needs to appoint those advisers who he thinks best meet his needs. He also needs to continue to take advice from leading members of the Cabinet who should also enjoy his trust .

[xxxxxy] 15/11/2020 08:04

John Redwood@johnredwood·1hThe EU moves from threat to threat because the U.K. has not given in to their bullying. Time for the U.K. establishment to back our side for a change and call the EU out for saying they will break their word and their Treaty.

[k38] 15/11/2020 01:24

There are two types of election fraud.A) election fraud (Bush v Gore)and..B) election frauuuuud (Biden v Trump)Joe Biden himself."We put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organisation in history of American politics"An ironic split of a tongue??? I don't think so. You don't make a such a mistake in your speech unless was in your mind and you knew about it !

[jl5006] 14/11/2020 20:01

should the theory of 1 5 mill MSMs be of concern then add on a further 3 mill petrified by the stupidity of the state diktat
This so called health body - looking after us - no just looking after them - not for our benefit

[jl5006] 14/11/2020 19:57

Well onlythe fools pay for Sky, So be it

[cheshire pete] 14/11/2020 19:52

Reports of up to 93% of 'positive' COVID tests being false positives. Much is being made of UK highest death total from COVID in Europe, the undertone being we're incapable of looking after ourselves and therefore shouldn't be leaving the EU lol.
Suspect we wouldn't be the worst if only true positives before arrival at hospital were counted but that wouldn't suit the agenda of our leftist media trying to talk the country down.

[grahamite2] 14/11/2020 19:17

Poikka, when I wrote of younger people I wasn't thinking of people in their 40s! Still, it's a fair point you make.