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[meek] 16/10/2020 09:21

Don't desert us sensible Scots and leave us to live with this crazy witch that's destroying our country.

[alphorn] 16/10/2020 09:18

M2 - Russia spreads fake news claiming Oxford coronavirus vaccine will turn people into MONKEYS - and portrays Boris Johnson as Bigfoot. (DM)

That may be the answer as to why you have to hand out so many bananas on this thread.

ROFLMAO

[mitchy] 16/10/2020 08:55

Sterling looking strong against the dollar.

[diku] 16/10/2020 08:52

No deal will become a deal...in other words any lingering doubts we negotiate later...

[maxk] 16/10/2020 08:48

EU drops promise of intensified trade talks

Britain's chief Brexit negotiator said he was "disappointed" that European Union leaders dropped their commitment to intensified trade negotiations at a Brussels summit last night. Boris Johnson will make a statement today about whether he will carry out his threat to walk away from talks and prepare to trade on World Trade Organisation terms with the EU from January 1 after the transition period ends.

James Crisp sums up the mood in Brussels after leaders discussed the Brexit negotiations in detail for two and a quarter hours.

Meanwhile, Nicola Sturgeon is accused of trying to "shamelessly flog Scottish independence" to the EU after wooing the bloc in an article for a German newspaper.

[mitchy] 16/10/2020 08:48

Not a lot of direction but the money is saying go long.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 08:18

And the Welsh Devolution has never had the mandate from the majority of the Welsh people. Beware those who have their snouts in the Welsh Assembly trough.

[crazi] 16/10/2020 08:16

I reckon they will strike some sort of deal. The deadline has passed and everyone is still at the table...says it all really.

[utrickytrees] 16/10/2020 08:13

You simply cant allow devolution of Scotland & wales without introducing regional assemblies in other parts of England if they want it. The North West GDP is far more than Wales & not far behind Scotlands but without the oil.

[utrickytrees] 16/10/2020 07:50

Yes we both admire leaders then M2. Your idol wanted everyone to speak the same German, murdered 6M Jews and was responsible for 75 -85 M deaths in WW2.

Mine seduces Porn Star Stormy Daniels, Suduces Kim Jong-Un to save Hawaii and avert WW3. Gets cleared of any Russian involvement in the 2016 elections by the Supreme court whilst on a massive bender with Putin in Moscow & raises $260B in tariffs from China.
My lads a 24 carat fkin legend, yours is a mass murderer.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 07:38

How should the UK government handle Devolved government?
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: OCTOBER 16, 2020
I opposed the creation of a devolved Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly when Labour offered its second referendum on these matters in 1997, as did the Conservative party as a whole. I accepted the result fully, even though the Welsh one was very narrow. Since that day I have never asked for another referendum to test opinion again, and have always supported co-operating properly with the devolved bodies.

I have not felt the need to change some of the arguments I put at the time. For example, I argued that setting up these bodies would not create a happily united UK in the way Labour envisaged. It was more likely that nationalists in Scotland would use the excellent platform the Scottish Parliament offered them to campaign continuously to move from devolution to separation. This has predictably come to pass. Not even a full and fair referendum to ask the question did Scotland wish to be independent was sufficient to restore peace on this issue, as the SNP unlike Conservatives never accept the result of a referendum when it goes against them. Today in Parliament every debate on whatever matters is another debate on Scottish independence as far as the SNP is concerned.

Today we see the results of managing the CV 19 response when the devolved authorities of Scotland, Wales and some City Mayors wish to be involved and wish to differentiate what they do. We get mixed messages, public disputes, selective leaks of privileged conversations and variable responses around the UK. I think a good case can be made for more local decision taking on this issue. After all the virus spreads at very different rates and at different times around the country. Hospital admission needs and death rates are very variable. Local circumstances over testing, hospital capacity and Care home management are different.

This argues for a two tier approach. The national government should provide a menu of powers and national advice on the best medical, scientific and economic response to the crisis. The national government and Parliament can decline powers that are thought to be too damaging and unhelpful. Devolved authorities should be free to select from the menu of special powers and responses what they wish to impose in their areas. The U.K. Parliament needs to press harder for a plan which does less economic damage than the current one.

Trying to do it by collaboration is more difficult, as this blurs responsibility and allows devolved authorities to play politics with a national crisis. The SNP government is said to have selectively leaked confidential information about possible future options before a common position was agreed or announced. They also spent the first part of the pandemic setting slightly tougher rules in Scotland, claiming this would allow Scotland to be virus free whilst England would suffer from being too lax. It did not turn out like that, with the Scottish government now needing to explain why their different approach did not produce better results.

Today why not let devolved authorities decide what they should do about rising case rates. They do not seem to like the national government telling them how to organise their pubs and restaurants, and they want to be more responsible for track and trace in their areas. If a Council or devolved assembly wished it could ask the national government to take responsibility for it. Otherwise the government will need to be firmer with sending plans to local and devolved government that they just need to implement as agents of central government.

The best argument against local differentiation is the variety of rules that will apply. The best argument in favour is many areas of the country will not need the heavy handed lock down the government’s advisers think necessary for areas with a high incidence of the pandemic.

(In the 1979 referendum Welsh voters rejected devolution by a massive 4 to 1 margin. In 1997 they voted 50.3% Yes on a 51.3% turnout, with a majority of just 6721 votes for devolution)

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 07:37

John Redwood
@johnredwood
Mrs Merkel still doesn’t get it. The U.K. voted to be a fully independent state. Let’s get on with it. The EU still wants control over us as if we had not left.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 07:36

John Redwood
@johnredwood
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27m
The U.K. should withdraw any offer of a 3 year further transition for fish. Offer the EU no quota for next year so we can rebuild our fish stocks and expand our own industry.

[ekuuleus] 16/10/2020 07:20

its simple. You go no deal, and then negotiating a deal becomes possible.

If you aren't prepared to go no deal, you will never get a deal.

[minerve 2] 15/10/2020 23:45

“I prefer leaders”



No surprise there, that is what all lemmings want.


Now, where’s that cliff?

[utrickytrees] 15/10/2020 23:35

Trump Show BBC 2. Just watched episodes 1 & 2, excellent!

Trump has dodged every bullet the establishment have fired his way hes bullet proof!

If America want a leader Trump will win. If they want a politician itll be Biden.

I prefer leaders.

[alphorn] 15/10/2020 23:10

cheshire - typical fluffy nebulous reply. You used to be decisive but now you are not sure? Sums you up.
Good night.

[minerve 2] 15/10/2020 23:06

k38

Do they run corner shops or are they brickies?

LOL!