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[investtofly] 16/7/2020 09:32

This is a warning to the world....... STOP MUCKING AROUND WITH NATURE

[alphorn] 16/7/2020 09:32

GtG - Have to stay positive that something will be found.

Another approach would be to come up a treatment that would make the disease manageable (for most) if caught.

[geckotheglorious] 16/7/2020 09:25

Alporn
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I've never been a fan of the "herd immunity" approach.

Who knows really where we head, immunity/vaccine/antibody wise.

This virus seems to be very very tricky in many areas #Futin Cleavage site

Anyone would think it's been "manufactured" rather than occurring naturally.

[alphorn] 16/7/2020 09:25

If the antibodies do indeed fall away so quickly it will also have a big impact on any vaccine that is found and marketed. How often will you need 'topping up' and will there be any further side effects from a regular vaccination???

[aljm] 16/7/2020 09:23

so the EU make the laws regarding VAT , but it is not their tax ? "Under EU law, the standard rate of VAT in any EU state cannot be lower than 15%.[5][6] Each state may have up to two reduced rates of at least 5% for a restricted list of goods and services.[6] The European Council must approve any temporary reduction of VAT in the public interest.[5]"

ANY Country importing into the EU have to have a VAT levy,

[geckotheglorious] 16/7/2020 09:22

Is that a fix Maxk?

[alphorn] 16/7/2020 09:16

#167. Yep, worrying.

Makes a vaccine even more important; it also casts more doubt on the 'herd' approach.

[maxk] 16/7/2020 09:13

They have a fix..

[geckotheglorious] 16/7/2020 09:11

Of more concern though....

A 3rd Study Has Now Found That COVID-19 Antibodies Disappear Very, Very Rapidly

Another recent study that was conducted in Spain that both showed that COVID-19 antibodies start to disappear very, very quickly. In fact, the study that was conducted in Spain discovered that some patients that originally tested positive for antibodies “no longer had antibodies weeks later”.

Well, now we have a third study to add to the list.

A study of COVID-19 patients that was conducted at Guy’s and St. Thomas’ National Health Service Foundation Trust in London found that “just 16.7 percent of the patients had a potent antibody response” after a couple of months had passed…







Not only do antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 fade, and perhaps fade quickly, studies have also shown that only 15% of those who test positive for antibodies make the neutralizing antibodies necessary to develop immunity in the first place. And not all of those who make neutralizing antibodies make them at high levels.

"This part is worrying"

Some of those infected make no antibodies at all.

[geckotheglorious] 16/7/2020 09:08

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Induced Adverse Reactions In "More Than Half" Of Trial Participants



Adverse effects to be expected.

[alphorn] 16/7/2020 09:04

Is it? Then the EU covers much of the world!

[maxk] 16/7/2020 08:30

And we are shelling out £10-15 billion in membership fees.


Good deal huh?

[wllmherk] 16/7/2020 07:22

EI, I agree with your thoughts on banks being on the hook for some of the economic carnage coming our way. That is why I think dividends being reinstated early next year is not a given. As millions lose their jobs and thousands of businesses go bust the optics of shareholders hoovering up fat dividend cheques will be one the Politicians and Regulator will want to be seen to be stopping.

Banks will be told to use spare capital to help the economy is my guess.

wllm

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[xxxxxy] 16/7/2020 07:16

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[ekuuleus] 16/7/2020 06:15

chav,

who is they? You are espousing poor pension advice then blaming 'them' without any justification. I'd be happy to consider 'their' financial genius. When you're ready.

portside

Income tax should be put up by 3p, perhaps, but not very Kaynes is it?

Tax on football should go up on all wages by 5%, would never agree to tax rates bby profession. That's nuts.

All loop holes should be made illegal . Also nuts by definition. If its a loophole, it's legal, that's why it's called a loophole. Retrospective law a big no no.

beer cut by 25%. Not for supermarkets. Would agree to lower pub prices, but at £1.25 at worthy, what you complaining about? London prices are less to do with tax and more with what idiots willing to pay. Designer (hahahhaa) beer, that's your choice. I agree really, less pub taxes.

Vat at 5%. Yeah right, Amazon really needs help exporting more profits to America and paying no tax here. Vat is just about the only tax we can get on large companies.

All take away food 20%. WTF?

All online 20%. Yeah, you got there. What would Argus charge for click and collect? You'd be better reforming business rates so that out of town have less advantage over high street.

[bmnsa] 16/7/2020 00:39

Rory Stewart, that is.

[essentialinvestor] 15/7/2020 23:43

When delinquencies on these government backed loans explode,
watch to see the heat on UK banks being ratcheted up,
with questions of due diligence raised and faux outrage from politicians.

What's the betting UK banks end up on the hook for some of this?,
and if anyone thinks that just cannot happen, perhaps think again imv.

[gaffer73] 15/7/2020 23:33

Hate to admit it port but you make more sense every day!

[minerve 2] 15/7/2020 23:25

Perhaps there should be an inquiry into why our PM cannot give an answer to a question.

Or why so many people thought a compulsive liar was going to make a good leader.

[jimarilo] 15/7/2020 23:13

Julian Lewis gets the elbow .......lmfao

[diku] 15/7/2020 22:49

When there is free money out there no doubt there will be opportunists out there...you have only got to have a look at the amount of O trades (Private Investors) going through the Plc casino market shares...where is all this money coming from?...no recession out there...