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[alangriffbang] 21/3/2020 12:53

Poikka I suppose if anybody caught the virus on bondi beach and died people would say why was it allowed to happen ,it’s a no win situation I am eighty one years of age so I know how much of this is important to me ,

[stonedyou] 21/3/2020 12:52

47 new cases and 2 new deaths in Singapore (First 2 deaths in the country) [source]

◦a 75-year-old Singaporean woman who was admitted on Feb 23 for pneumonia and had been in intensive care for 26 days

a 64-year-old Indonesian man who was admitted to intensive care on March 13 after arriving in Singapore from Indonesia on the same day [source]

[mitchy] 21/3/2020 12:49

There is no doubt Italy will go into recession, probably depression.
In fact I would say the whole world is on the brink of depression.
Most first world countries were already over indebted to GDP before the virus.
Once the dominos start falling...what price lloy then?
I'm pretty sure it will be one of the survivors but what's it's bottom in a depressed world. The market is currently falling faster than the crash of 1929-32.
5 cents on the dollar then equates to about 5p for lloy. Couldn't happen?
If they take a year to come up with a vaccine...a year of lockdown!

[diku] 21/3/2020 12:28

Lack of toilet rolls on the shelves is at critical level...

[scruff1] 21/3/2020 12:16

Stoned its noon and they are not reported til around 5 so upto now I suppose it's possible you are correct:-)

[poikka] 21/3/2020 11:38

The latest madness by authorities.

The closing of Bondi beach because the numbers exceeded 500. The police have been instructed to remove people who exceed this number.

I leave the rest to your imagination...

[alphorn] 21/3/2020 11:34

k38 - "store it in a hole in the ground....."

Seen it in practice, ex USSR. Looked as though squirrels had dug over the place.

[alphorn] 21/3/2020 11:22

Good morning Essential - yes, the potential impact on asthmatics is scary. Take care.

[essentialinvestor] 21/3/2020 11:11

In terms of symptoms, yes there are similarities. However, far more cases of coronovirus
appear to go on to develop viral pneumonia, that's the main issue.

[spartac1] 21/3/2020 11:03

Don't normally post these boards but a very interesting group of statistics. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285To put things in perspective these reports were carried out between 2013/2017

[patientcapital] 21/3/2020 10:53

That is more than a rounding error. And there are plenty of younger patients in intensive care too.""50% of our patients in the intensive care unit, which are the most severe patients, are over 65 years old," he said."But that means that the other 50% of our patients are younger than 65." - Sky

[gbh2] 21/3/2020 10:53

"The virus is just a flu"

Try to keep up at the back, there's no comparison !

[scruff1] 21/3/2020 10:45

One fly in the ointment with that die anyway theory (probably lots of flies). Bergamo had 56 deaths in 2019. Had 109 in last 2 weeks

[xxxxxy] 21/3/2020 10:03

I am with the rebels this time. Let Commonsense Rule OKhtTps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8137057/Tory-backbenchers-plan-rebellion-against-Boris-Johnsons-plans.html

[pierre oreilly] 21/3/2020 08:28

Yes, my view is almost all this devastation is to save people who anyway will soon die once they've been saved from covid. And the indirect deaths this devastation causes far exceeds those numbers anyway. And the indirect deaths will include many currently physically strong and capable of valuable contribution to society.

[poikka] 21/3/2020 08:11

From the BBC

"The figures for coronavirus are eye-watering. But what is not clear - because the modellers did not map this - is to what extent the deaths would have happened without coronavirus.

Given that the old and frail are the most vulnerable, would these people be dying anyway?

Every year more than 500,000 people die in England and Wales: factor in Scotland and Northern Ireland, and the figure tops 600,000.

The coronavirus deaths will not be on top of this. Many would be within this "normal" number of expected deaths. In short, they would have died anyway.

It was a point conceded by Sir Patrick at a press conference on Thursday when he said there would be "some overlap" between coronavirus deaths and expected deaths - he just did not know how much of an overlap.

The flu comparison

In contrast, the figure he gave for flu deaths to MPs - 8,000 - is different. It is actually the number of deaths over and above what you would expect to happen in any given year.

Many more die with flu, but the figure gives you an indication of how many more die because of flu, whereas the 20,000, 250,000 and 500,000 figures for coronavirus are simply the number of deaths linked to coronavirus.

The testing which has been done in many countries means we know when a patient dies with the virus inside their body. What it does not tell us is to what extent coronavirus contributed to the death.

The modellers are underestimating the ability of the NHS to increase intensive care facilities."

[xxxxxy] 21/3/2020 08:11

Globalisation has become The Morgue.NO DEAL with the EUSSR

[xxxxxy] 21/3/2020 08:08

Imperative going forward.Made in the UK.Not stuff from ChinaNot stuff from the EUSSR.Made here. Made in the UK.NO DEAL

[xxxxxy] 21/3/2020 08:00

John HumphryshtTps://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8136603/JOHN-HUMPHRYS-Coronavirus-presents-difficult-waters.html

[n73] 21/3/2020 07:15

Ohh you are so brave.

[n73] 21/3/2020 07:11

That's why cards are for dude.