Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[toon1966] 23/8/2019 16:50

No doubt the Herald and the Scottish Government are perfect in every way....

[buywell3] 23/8/2019 16:49

South Korea or Japan or India or Taiwan to name but a few

LLOY next leg down to start next week IMO

Target 45p for now

dyor

[gotnorolex] 23/8/2019 16:48

DOW Tanking!
President Donald Trump said that American companies are “hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China.”
The sooner this fruitloop is impeached the better!

[buywell3] 23/8/2019 16:48

That little wiggle on the chart back to 50p

Indicates IMO a suckers rally or bull trap

For those numpties that can't see the wood for the trees

FTSE 100 is going to drop to 6000 as it follows the US DJIA

Trump is not going to back down and neither is China

Trade war and Currency wars in tandem

Rates getting cut and cut again

-0.4 Germany rates to go more minus soon when the EU cuts = Savers savaged

[bargainbob] 23/8/2019 16:42

Oh my Breaking BBC issue apology , on Gers.

[bargainbob] 23/8/2019 16:27

Every cloud

[heliweli] 23/8/2019 16:07

Fat orange man tweets about more tariffs and down we go.

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 15:19

That would mean Con party will be RIP.Perhaps that is what you really want.MOMENTUM IS BADLABOUR IS BADLEAVE AND WTO

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 15:16

Nig lPosted August 23, 2019 at 5:33 am |PermalinkBut what about the rest of the WA. Paying vast sums, the ECJ, tariffs, VAT, fishing, subsidy and procurement etc.Boris is suspiciously quiet?AtlasPosted August 23, 2019 at 10:00 am |PermalinkI agree that Boris is suspiciously quiet.It will not go well for him if he sells out on these issues.

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 15:09

Let's give Democracy and Freedom a chance.Freedom and Democracy are priceless.LEAVE and WTOWithout Democracy and Freedom life and living would be Hell.LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE

[careful] 23/8/2019 15:02

Bill Cash is such a twerp.

He fancies himself as an expert legal eagle and constitutional expert.

He talked for hours about how we would have to leave the EU. on 29th March arguing complex legal arguments how it could not be stopped.

Close to this date set in stone, (like this October date), it was simple case of 'we seek an extension',..granted. No problem.

Cash is a windbag, time he retired.

[minerve 2] 23/8/2019 14:56

Bill Cash

I thought dinosaurs were extinct.

😂

[careful] 23/8/2019 14:55

Lets stay in the wonderful EU.

STAY and FREE TRADE

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 14:51

Let's LEAVE the Evil EUSSR

LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 14:49

COLLABORATORS

Election

Boot them OUT




LordOfMisrule • 6 hours ago
What an odious, third rate little man he is. Even looking at him makes me depressed.

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MrVeryAngry LordOfMisrule • 5 hours ago • edited
Doesn't make me depressed. Makes me very, very angry. How dare he. He's my employee. He's been told what to do and he is disobeying that order. In any other employment he would be fired.

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James Stevenson MrVeryAngry • 5 hours ago
You could set up a petition on the parliament website to hold him to account. A bit of negative press about him could make him toxic for any business thinking about taking him on when the rat leaves the sinking ship.

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Snowflake James Stevenson • 4 hours ago
He and Grieve have something of the night about them

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 14:48

QUISLINGS

Election.

Boot them OUT

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 14:45

Why investment should rebound after Brexit

First, the bad news. UK business investment in non-financial assets, which includes factories and machinery, has stalled since the vote to leave the EU in 2016. Indeed, investment has fallen outright in five of the last six quarters, and is now about 1½% lower than a year ago. This is still not the ‘collapse’ that some would have us believe. The UK’s overall economic performance over the past year has also still been better than many of its peers. But it does make the UK an outlier in terms of capital spending. The level of business investment in the UK is roughly the same as it was three years ago, compared to typical increases of 10% in other major economies. If growth in investment here had kept pace with that elsewhere, our GDP might now be 1% higher. Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) has also been softening. This is partly a global trend and there are still plenty of bright spots, such as the tech sector. But the UK has seen a relatively sharp fall in cross-border investment in new physical projects. For once, there is little doubt about the cause. Numerous surveys show that both local and foreign businesses have been deterred from investing in the UK by the extended Brexit uncertainty. Given that their main concerns are about new barriers to trade, it is no surprise that cross-border investment has been hit particularly hard. Nonetheless, the current weakness of investment is not a good argument for cancelling Brexit altogether. For a start, it need not have been like this, if the negotiations had been handled better. Investment began to pick up again shortly after the referendum once firms had overcome the initial shock of the result, and as the warnings of an immediate recession were proved wrong. The high point in capital spending did not actually come until the end of 2017. Since then, unfortunately, the needlessly prolonged and botched process of leaving the EU has led many firms to put spending back on hold. The mixed signals about the preparedness to leave without a deal – summed up in the Yellowhammer leaks – have only compounded this problem. It would also be wrong to argue that the solution is to delay the departure from the EU even further. This would presumably require some combination of an early general election, another referendum, and a takeover by an interim government, perhaps led by Mr J Corbyn. This would surely prolong and increase the uncertainties over Brexit, and add others. There are much better reasons to believe that investment will rebound once Brexit finally happens. There is plenty of evidence, such as EY’s UK Attractiveness Survey, that the UK remains the top destination for FDI in Europe, and that many firms have only ‘paused’ projects rather than cancelled them altogether. Similarly, London is still well ahead of other European cities in the Global Financial Centres Index (GFCI). What’s more, even if the UK does leave on 31stOctober without a deal, many businesses would surely prefer the certainty of some short-term disruption, for which both sides will now be much better prepared, than continued dithering with no idea what happens next. As the Aston Martin CEO, Andy Palmer, succinctly put it, ‘I’d rather leave with No Deal than drag negotiations on’. Of course, leaving on 31st October without a deal would not end all the uncertainty, especially about the long-term relationship between the UK and the EU. It is possible that, in a few areas, it might simply confirm some of the worries about the short-term impact, and provide certainty of a bad outcome. But even in these areas, businesses would finally know what they have to cope with, especially in terms of any new tariffs and red tape. The investments that are currently only on hold will then gradually be restarted, just as in 2016 when the economy initially stalled, then accelerated again. This time the UK would actually be leaving the EU. But this also means that businesses will have even harder evidence that the nightmare scenarios – including those apocalyptic Yellowhammer headlines – are more ‘Project Fear’. Leaving sooner rather than later would also allow the new administration under Boris Johnson to crack on with a broader package of measures to maintain – and enhance – the attractiveness of the UK as a place to do business. This should include additional investment in infrastructure, and tax cuts. And even if sterling fails to recover, the benefits of a more competitive currency will gradually outweigh the increase in the cost of imports. Finally, there is already evidence that all this is more than just wishful thinking. For example, the July services PMI reported that ‘a number of survey respondents commented on improved sales to clients in external markets, helped by the weak sterling exchange rate against the euro and US dollar. Moreover, the latest survey indicated the fastest increase in new work from abroad since June 2018.’ And in the July manufacturing PMI, ‘manufacturers maintained a positive outlook in July. Over 46% expect output to be higher in one year’s time, compared to less than 10% forecasting contraction. Optimism was linked to new product launches, an expected rebound in export sales, strong order pipelines, reduced uncertainty following Brexit and improved infrastructure (including 5G networks)’.

[smartypants] 23/8/2019 14:26

Its not us its them mentality!

China plans to raise import tariff rates on some US goods.

5078 products will be levied

New tariff rates of 5-10% will apply to about USD 75bln worth of US goods on September 1st and December 15th

Crude oil will be among the products tariffed at 5% from September 1st

China says it has to take countermeasures against US protectionism

China says it will resume additional tariffs on US autos, and US auto parts

Are to impose extra 5% tariff on soy beans as of September 1st
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Fed's Mester: Trade war impacting business morale.
The United States Federal Reserve must weigh both downward and risks at its next meeting regarding the path of interest rates, according to Loretta Mester as she acknowledged on Friday the impact of the trade disputes with China and today's announcement from Beijing.
Mester still said the US is less exposed than Europe to the trade war ????
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Navarro: China retaliatory tariffs show it's bad actor.
China's decision to introduce retaliatory tariffs "reinforces America's perception of China as a bad actor" according to White House trade advisor Peter Navarro.

Navarro added that the US economy is doing well despite tariffs and commented that the retaliatory tariffs China introduced are relatively small.

China introduced tariffs on $75 billion on US imports on Friday, leading indexes on Wall Street to turn lower before the bell.

[smartypants] 23/8/2019 14:10

China plans to raise import tariff rates on some US goods.

5078 products will be levied

New tariff rates of 5-10% will apply to about USD 75bln worth of US goods on September 1st and December 15th

Crude oil will be among the products tariffed at 5% from September 1st

China says it has to take countermeasures against US protectionism

China says it will resume additional tariffs on US autos, and US auto parts

Are to impose extra 5% tariff on soy beans as of September 1st

[smartypants] 23/8/2019 14:02

Thought you were on of the "proper investor" brigade?
Stick your savings in a capitol losing investment like.....LLOY
And have them give you a bit of your own money back every now and again...No
No Uk savings accounts are paying "good" interest rates
But it is not hard to find one that pays more than 0.5%
I have 3 accounts an I am not even in the UK!
The post office pays 1.15% stick in £1-£1mil
If you can afford to add £50 a month to your pot then Natwest pays 1.5%
Need any more help?
Just fill your boots with more Lloyds guaranteed to make you rich if you can wait 30 years...that right marx?
Do they still have the football pools?
Spot the ball?

[alphorn] 23/8/2019 14:02

I very much doubt it Max.

In the meantime the China : US tariff wars are there to digest.

[maxk] 23/8/2019 13:37

The tory party might have changed jockeys, but they are still charging into the valley of death.

[gotnorolex] 23/8/2019 13:34

It's always been dog eats dog! Now it's dog eats own tail!