Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:53

Quite noticeable how the knuckle-draggers change the subject when they lose argument.

Put your money where your mouth is (second ref), or shut up.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:48

Poikka

British Steel and the auto industry have problems - any chimp could see that - but Brexit was the final nail in the coffin. No CEO/rep/PR of a company who wants to sell product and or service will be willing to alienate a large percentage of its customer base and/or a government which it looks to for support and incentives.

Wake up fool, obviously you have never run a meaningful business.

[poikka] 27/5/2019 10:48

Icarus - "I would rather take what we have and negotiate a leave that is reflective of a near 50/50 split in the population"

Most would, but the only way to achieve that is by negotiating from a position of strength. Hammond doesn't get that, or more likely he just wants to Remain.

Btw, not impressed by being referred to as "thick Brexiteers" - even hiding behind quotation marks.

[1carus] 27/5/2019 10:40

For Min.... hxxps://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2017/50/higher-educated-most-politically-active

It takes a second to check stats these days... its not clever to do because any chimp can do it. The inference in what I said was that "smart" remainers are more likely to vote than "thick" brexiteers. As the percentage of population voting increases, the stats suggest the percentage outcome swings to the "thick" brexiteers.

Another referendum runs a risk of a double Brexit outcome, the momentum is with farage again, -- I would rather take what we have and negotiate a leave that is reflective of a near 50/50 split in the population, rather than risk giving a mandate for a hard brexit on a second result in favour of brexit.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:38

You have had it too good chimps. Have the decency to accept that will you!

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:36

Ft article this morning, exactly what I've been saying:

Young people in the UK face multiple barriers if they hope to enjoy as contented a retirement as the baby-boomer generation.

Few will have the luxury of the defined benefit pensions that many of their elders take for granted. They will have to work longer before they can claim the state pension and a rising proportion will be stuck in rented housing for life, so will have no property wealth either.

[maxk] 27/5/2019 10:30

Educated chimps..

[poikka] 27/5/2019 10:29

Could be a good start for utilities tomorrow with Labour getting a kicking.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:21

More like

educated people are more likely to vote Remain.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 10:21

"educated people are more likely to vote"

LOL

[1carus] 27/5/2019 10:17

I should add --- educated people are more likely to vote, taking Min's assumption that the majority are chimps, most of the smart people voted in the 37%, but as the participation approaches 100%, chimp rules rule! Big turn out will bias towards Brexit.

[1carus] 27/5/2019 10:10

I don't mind on this thread the general banter about brexit, the 'combatants' tend to hold their own on both sides of the argument, but some of the stuff on social media and the media is toxic. The country was pretty much evenly split so to discount the opinions of half the population either way would be wrong. Referring to remainers as remoaners is derogatory, just as saying leavers are too thick to understand what they voted for. On the coverage last night LK made a comment about farage/brexit party success, she said something like ... " his success is that he appeals to a certain 'type' of electorate" . Strickly speaking she is correct, as every point of view will have its followers, but there was a definite inference that that particular group of people were blinkered small england thinkers .... either rightwing or thick, she could barely hide it. It is so bad to do this type of thing in the media, being dismissive of either groups or individuals in this way is not good. Just imagine making a throw away comment about people of colour or religion on national tv. These people know exactly what the standards are and should be held to account to report objectively and without bias. Yes, interview politicians and hold them to account with robust discussion, but it has to be done without bias. If we can't get a state owned broadcasting service right we will have no chance in getting social media right, and for me that is very dangerous as SM has both the power to inform and mis-inform in equal measures. In terms of the outcome of the eu result, it appears nothing much has changed. Pretty even split, for and against, and another all out referendum would be in the lap of the gods as the result would be determined by the people that didn't vote on thursday.( Brexit ref turn out 72% , eu election 37%) - personally I think the brexit percentage would increase with a bigger turn out.

[florenceorbis] 27/5/2019 10:00

at present the CAC and DAX seem not too unhappy with the EU vote results

both ticking up


CAC 40
5,337.75 +0.40%
SBF 120
4,212.49 +0.39%
EuroStoxx 50
3,364.88 +0.43%
DAX Index
12,077.32 +0.55%
Ftse Mib
20,572.7 +0.97%


POINTING TO A POSITIVE OPEN IN LONDON TOMORROW

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 09:58

This is part protest vote but yet again the Hard Brexiters are so arrogant they believe they have the electoral mandate which they quite clearly don't.

[gbh2] 27/5/2019 09:58

The one question the EU always avoid, is why they even exist when the Tax Payers of every Country involved already pay their own Politicians to Run their own Country?

The answer is linked to the needs of Large Multinational Businesses for more and more Globalization, the Multinational were at the heart of the establishment of the EU, they needed an EU Hierarchy that was in their Pocket. An EU Hierarchy that would ensure a constant supply of cheap Labour at a controlled Labour Cost and Ease of movement of all their goods throughout and beyond Europe!

[diku] 27/5/2019 09:57

If both parties are acting in the best interest of the Country and its people then why bother having different parties...

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 09:49

That is why a second referendum is the way to go. It is a Brexit get out which doesn't damage the Tories or Labour in a GE. Both will want to build strength.

Just wait and see. Only a matter of time.

[stewart64] 27/5/2019 08:57

Not good news for domestic stocks...either the Tories go hard Brexit or they lose the next general election, but in going for a hard Brexit they risk no confidence from their Remain wing and an imminent general election. Meanwhile the alternative is possibly the prospect of a Corbyn government ( unless we get a leftist coalition) and that could be even worse for domestic stocks.