Kier Share Discussion Threads

[fangorn2] 03/12/2018 17:17

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Fanghorn nobody seems to look at balance sheets anymore..it's quarter of a billion in the red once you discount goodwill. .

Goodwill associated with Kentz acquisition right?

What is key is whether the company has positive cash flow, makes money,and can service its debts(Presumably easy given historical low itnerests rates!)


Meanwhile on the Taylor Wimpey thread the doomsters are calling bankruptcy even as it doesn't book goodwill and has a liquidation value of three billion. Still has the same p/e as Kier.. as I said nobody looks at bslance sheets.

TW and housebuilders will be fine for as long as Net Migration is 275,000-300,000 per annum. Add that to population dynamics of those already resident plenty of demand for property going forward.

Given lack of building more than 175,000-200,000 odd houses per annum prices underpinned imo..

Wish I'd held on to my TW I bought at 4p/sh - meh

[eriktherock] 03/12/2018 17:04

418p should see the bottom.

[brexitplus] 03/12/2018 16:52

Big buying volumes from directors!!!

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 16:48

ok cheers grs

[gettingrichslow] 03/12/2018 16:10

ElCap, Minerve is underwater here and in many other places, don't waste time trying to explain this one to him, he won't be told...

[gettingrichslow] 03/12/2018 16:08

Nomdeplume, sorry I think ElCapital is right - one doesn't need to 'do more analysis' - when a company rushes a rights issue through like that you know all you need to know already surely? You can do more naval gazing if you wish but it it clear already that this company is in a very sticky mess.

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 16:05

i didnt think te rights issue was underwritten, thought they had acceptances of 32%. If im wrong im wrong. cant be bothered to look

[nomdeplume] 03/12/2018 15:57

“If the share price reaches £4.09 prior to the rights issue, would that wipe out any value attributable to the so called "NIL Paid" shares?”

Is that really a serious question?

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 15:43

Surely everyone uses a decent vpn chucko. I do

[azioni2] 03/12/2018 15:43

If the share price reaches £4.09 prior to the rights issue, would that wipe out any value attributable to the so called "NIL Paid" shares?

[chuckol] 03/12/2018 15:41

I believe that people on this thread should be very careful. If you express disagreement with jonwig, a frequent poster on this thread, he will institute a search for your IP address. He has been boasting on the WPCT thread that he has discovered that the best poster on that thread posts from a very particular location. How else could he have found out other than by using a nefarious piece of software?

I have been told that this particular piece of kit could also enable him to look up the skirts of female posters. I somehow doubt that because his salient characteristic seems to be his impotence.

[nomdeplume] 03/12/2018 15:36

Elcapital2018: The RI is fully underwritten.

[zicopele] 03/12/2018 15:27

You forgot the overstated WIP Elcapital.

Never forget the overstated WIP.

Kier has made WIP into an art form...what with all those clever accountants on its board.

Actually rights issue is underwritten but if share price falls below 400p, watch more selling flood the market.

The short sellers must be in clover. Big bonuses this year for them and well deserved too.

[zicopele] 03/12/2018 15:25

What we want next is another rights issue at £2 ....to finance more growth.

Oh and everyone is in the same boat lads.

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 15:22

2% margins, massive off balance debt, emergency rights issue not unnderwritten.

Whats not to like!

Bust within a year is a 50% possibility

[zicopele] 03/12/2018 15:12

Boys...get those helmets on. We have a crash landing in sight.

Oh yes baby

[minerve] 03/12/2018 15:12

Not me I'm afraid. I'm building up UK domestic positions. So lower is better for me. Some of the cheapest stocks on the cheapest market are here in the UK. An opportunity not to be missed. And put it this way, if my decision to invest in UK domestics is wrong, then it isn't just my stocks that will be f%cked, it will be the UK that is f%cked too. So we are all within 'this trade' whether we like it or not. Best make it an opportunity me thinks.

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 15:08

nomdeplume, but maybe you too if the cap fits

woodford wont be loaning out ....he wont on purp to try and keep it up

[minerve] 03/12/2018 15:08

The biggest short at the moment is the UK. And we all know which f%ckwits are to blame for that don't we! ROFLMAO!

[minerve] 03/12/2018 15:05

Elcapital2018

Who is struggling?

[elcapital2018] 03/12/2018 15:04

you idiot

im not giving advice, and i dont think anyone else

you dont have to be a brain surgeon to see the problems here, but , it seems, you do need a little intelligence, hence why you are struggling I guess

[minerve] 03/12/2018 15:03

So shorters are saying the accounts are being manipulated yet the current Beneish score is -2.34. Is the professor wrong here? I don't think so.

I'm starting to suspect that it is Woodford who is loaning the stock to the shorting amigos.

[nomdeplume] 03/12/2018 14:57

Until recently we went days without a post on this blog. And now we get lots - all talking Kier down. All offering sage advice to sell or stay clear. So nice of them to try and be so helpful. A little more analysis might be more interesting and useful.

[zicopele] 03/12/2018 14:46

Yes...this baby is going down.

B