Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 904.00p 903.50p 904.50p - - - 0 05:30:39
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 4,210.6 -15.4 -18.5 - 883.78

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/8/2018
20:16
I've lost count of the number of companies that have over borrowed, over complicated the business, invested in Oracle or SAP at great expense, employed too many clever accountants that don't know the business that well; and then tried to keep things looking good by loads of exceptional entries in the accounts; economy drives etc. Then we see a few senior managers go, then eventually the executives when it all unravels and huge write downs are needed. The dividend looks unsustainable. Confidence has been waning, but do we hang on thinking this is the exception? I dunno, just looks fishy.
kangaroo joe
16/8/2018
19:30
Grahamburn.....sorry to be a bit slow in responding. Thanks for filling in the gap philanderer.
ygor705
16/8/2018
12:56
Thanks, philanderer. So reasonably high up the Kier greasy pole, but not quite high enough to warrant an RNS. However, useful background for the role he has taken on.
grahamburn
16/8/2018
12:47
Kier snaps up ex-Carillion MD Former Carillion managing director James Hindes has joined Kier to head up its aviation and defence business. Mr Hindes was managing director for Carillion’s southern region and before that served as the national operations director for its building business. During his time at the contractor, which collapsed in January, Mr Hindes worked on Heathrow Terminal 5 and on estates projects for the Defence Infrastructure Organisation. Mr Hindes will serve as managing director of Kier’s aviation and defence business, for which the company said it had “ambitious growth plans”. In its half-year report released in March, Kier cited defence and aviation along with life sciences as three markets it is targeting for more construction work. HTTPS://www.constructionnews.co.uk/companies/contractors/kier/kier-snaps-up-ex-carillion-md/10033532.article
philanderer
16/8/2018
12:39
ygor705 Please can you point me in the direction of the announcement of the "recent hiring of the ex MD of Carillion by Kier"? A quick glance at recent RNS's (even going back to March) didn't show that appointment, so guess it's not at top level management.
grahamburn
16/8/2018
10:29
In construction (as in any other business) there is always risk Z but I suspect that the recent hiring of the ex MD of Carillion by Kier suggests that they have assumed a significant number of contracts from that source. We are not looking at a jobbing builder here: the universe of contractors capable of assuming abortive Carillion work is limited - particularly if Kier was already heavily involved. Too easy to be pessimistic when the price of a share falls. All to often in modern markets predators pick up companies at an artificially low price and enjoy the recovery when it comes. With BREXIT on the horizon I'm afraid that we are likely to see a lot more of this kind of rape and pillage from overseas entities. It's done with shares rather than an axe and sword these days!
ygor705
16/8/2018
09:40
Carillon demise does not give Kier pricing power. The construction industry routinely underprices all work. I doubt if Balfour Beatty, the biggest player in market has more 5 percent of the UK construction market. Competitors come and go but there is always pricing risk.
zicopele
16/8/2018
08:59
Based on fundamentals, I'm having difficulty in understanding why the share price is so weak here.......particularly given that an underpricing competitor (ie Carillion) is no longer in the market. Unless we are dealing with a Board who are deliberately misleading investors, and there are hints of this on this BB, my own view is that an outside bid of some kind will soon be on the agenda.
ygor705
16/8/2018
08:15
This is an information exchange so > eriktherock - 24 Jul 2018 - 06:08:50 - 919 of 945 Kier Group 2005 - The Building Business - KIE mark, the turning point was at the end of march last year and Kier have been in a downward trend since. There is support (yes, historic) around 920 which is clearly evidenced from the Weekly chart. If an Hourly candle is formed below this level(921) then there is sound technical reasons, based on past share price values, to indicate the levels referred to above e g 732p. There are no technical reasons to support the targets you mention.
eriktherock
15/8/2018
16:55
No it's not - it's just been dropping in line with the FTSI.
nomdeplume
15/8/2018
16:19
Winning work is easy. Price lower than the opposition and you are almost guaranteed to win the job. I wonder why they even bother announcing new projject wins. Winning work is buying risk and Kier has enough risk. We have now broken through 900p. This is very significant.
zicopele
15/8/2018
12:53
Not for lack of business: hxxps://www.insidermedia.com/insider/yorkshire/kier-wins-30m-of-work-with-yorkshire-councils hxxps://www.constructionenquirer.com/2018/08/15/kier-confirmed-for-london-27m-biomedical-labs-job/
f15jcm
14/8/2018
15:29
All...get your crash helmets on..we are.probing the downside of multi year lows ....so let it begin
zicopele
13/8/2018
09:20
Nigel Brook (Executive Director - Construction and Infrastructure Services) and Nigel Turner (Executive Director - Developments and Property Services) will stand down from the Board and leave the business with immediate effect. 1.8.18
eriktherock
10/8/2018
10:26
No private equity business would touch them with a barge pole due to the state of their balance sheet.
salpara111
09/8/2018
15:32
Why would Jura do that? Kier is sitting on a bundle of provisions which they call work in progress and keep on their books. They then go through the motions of initiating legal action against clients for the most spurious claims in order to justify their positions.
zicopele
08/8/2018
20:33
Rumours that Jura Acquisition who have just bid for JLIF are eyeing up Kier with a view to splitting and divesting the 3 main divisions.
snakeoilsalesman
08/8/2018
17:42
eriktherock - 23 Jul 2018 - 13:04:04 - 917 of 936 Kier Group 2005 - The Building Business - KIE I've decided to scale in short @ 940p. We shouldn't need 'vision 2020' to see where this is heading. 921p > 732p > 418p
eriktherock
08/8/2018
17:41
Well, we're at support and I've finished scaling-in short. Any way the wind blows !
eriktherock
08/8/2018
11:56
The future of the CEO is inextricably linked to the current dividend. Therefore dividend will be maintained at all costs.
zicopele
05/8/2018
10:59
The elephant in the room is exactly the same as Carillion, their real debt level.They are doing exactly what Carillion did to try and hide it by manipulating it to show an acceptable level at the year end but looking at the average net debt level and it is pretty ugly. Personally I feel they should slash the divi by at least 50% and focus on reducing their debt level. carillion maintained their unsustainable divi until the end. I am not saying they will end up with the same fate as Carillion but the market is not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at present.
salpara111
02/8/2018
09:30
COO has been appointed with no real construction experience. But he will cut costs. I reckon the market is reacting negatively because this appointment demonstrates just how badly the company is performing. Interestingly, the Chairman, Chief Executive and COO all come from a background which is not construction. They come from accountancy and finance backgrounds. This is a very different model to Costain and Balfour Beatty where the top guys are engineers. Directors have been leading a gilded life in head office for years. Any of you guys ever go there? The place is palatial and totally inappropriate for a modern construction company. Kier will continue to fall.
zicopele
01/8/2018
07:40
Good progress has been made to date in identifying potential cost savings; further information about the programme will be provided when Kier announces its 2018 financial year results on 20 September 2018................"Nigel Brook and Nigel Turner will be leaving the Board after, respectively, 10 and 21 years' service with Kier. Each has made a significant contribution to the business and the Board. That will have been an interesting conversation COO appointed so we don't need Exec Directors. This is a structure I prefer as it gives sacred cows less places to hide and, gets the board doing strategy rather than being filled up with Ops guys defending their pitch i don't think they can really claim that the board has been a success either so a clean out is good
marksp2011
26/7/2018
15:11
this is on the up today? why?
mmlakhani1
25/7/2018
18:40
Here's another one > If you don't think the stock represents good value at this level and therefore wouldn't buy it @ 940p, then you should sell it.
eriktherock
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