Kier Share Discussion Threads

[bathboy2] 05/10/2023 09:36

Cancelling HS2 is a good thing , a total white elephant, the car will always be king in this country, so spend it on roads etc , they always go on about the North being poor , load of rubbish in my opinion, high wages and low cost of housing , much more disposable income , than most in the South , all because a lot of northern people and londoners has subsequently moved to the south , to live/retire , with their wealth, it messes with the reality , the majority of londoners and seaside workers are struggling to make ends meet

[stutes] 04/10/2023 15:29

The Chancellor needs to fund £20bn of additional interest payments due to higher rates/bond yields. UK is already being taxed to the highest levels post war. The only options in a low growth environment is to, cut cost , stall investment or borrow more. We shall see how things pan out come Autumn Statement.

[stutes] 04/10/2023 12:49

Sunak said: “There must be some accountability for the mistakes made, for the mismanagement of this project.

How much of the blame will stick to contractors, consultants or HMG?

[propdeveloper] 03/10/2023 11:35

You are, or were, probably right on HS2. Sunak seems to be softening a bit with respect to now saying he's not made up his mind.

But really, the political procrastination is what makes overruns. Let's face it, you dither for a year and that adds 10% due to inflation, but you get that back in VAT and income tax receipts so is probably not an overrun in the long run. But... once agreed in the words of Nike. . "Just Do It". Something politicians are incapable of doing.

As for the doctors comments that is pure unfounded conjecture!

[stutes] 02/10/2023 19:32

HMG is reported to cut Manchester HS2 link; odd that they can find £4bn+ to fund House of Parliament upgrade.

I think Government is set to cut more capital projects to fund a deal to pay the Doctors off ahead of the next Election.

[ontheforks] 28/9/2023 18:20

Woo hoo £281.66 in profit lol think my shares averaged at £1.11 when they switched stock traders and to think wally Woodford advised me to sell them when they were somewhere in the mid £0.60s I'd hate to have him investing my life savings 😂 good luck longs 👍🏻

[bathboy2] 27/9/2023 18:18

Why have an investor day ????

[itisonlymoney] 27/9/2023 16:35

complete nonesense bathboy like every one of yr hundreds of predictions since you started posting here. kier is generating its own cash. £130m for this full yr. seriously, i don't know why you are still posting here.

[bathboy2] 27/9/2023 11:44

I reckon going for a cash call as predicted , why else would they be doing??

[simski99] 27/9/2023 10:16

Kier are hosting a retail investor presentation at 10.30am tomorrow, Thursday 28th September. They have announced it on RNS, but if people want to sign up, the link is here:

Retail Investor Presentation


The live online Retail Investor Presentation will be held at 10:30am BST on 28 September 2023 and will be open to all existing and potential shareholders. To attend, please register via the following link:


us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_43xcLFGlSTqFTqNIsyXLzA

Could be interesting....

[simski99] 27/9/2023 09:57

Kier are hosting a retail investor presentation at 10.30am tomorrow, Thursday 28th September. They have announced it on RNS, but if people want to sign up, the link is here:

Retail Investor Presentation


The live online Retail Investor Presentation will be held at 10:30am BST on 28 September 2023 and will be open to all existing and potential shareholders. To attend, please register via the following link:


us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_43xcLFGlSTqFTqNIsyXLzA

Could be interesting....

[greenhat2] 22/9/2023 14:27

Another Director buy

[bathboy2] 22/9/2023 13:31

I expect the divi ,to be between 1 to 3 p per share IMO

[itisonlymoney] 22/9/2023 13:14

i agree with most of that propdeveloper, but the turnover is £3.4bn. 10.1bn is the order book. kier cld be making £120m a yr. cash conversion is promised at 90%. potentially maybe 20p a share. still a great return on 110p.

[propdeveloper] 22/9/2023 12:39

Consultants have professional indemnity for design work. This is a lot of money plus their work is what is signed off, etc. Eg structural engineers.

Contractors are the do-ers and as long as they execute to the design they have no comeback. However if they cut corners then their are problems. That's why there is profit delta.

Kier seems to be okay currently, and if this 6 month of trading is as expected a dividend will be paid. This is a company to watch for the next 12 months at least before the malaise of another election circa Dec 2024.

I'd expect first few divi's to be conservative but suspect shares will increase on that news and if margins are still 3.9%. Think about it, 500M shares-ish and 8bn turnover at 3.9% profit gives a rough profit of 75p per share! A share price won't be at this level if that comes to fruition.

[stutes] 21/9/2023 10:06

Contractors have become more management contractors with more work/risk packaged to subcontractors. It begs the question why consultants earn over 10%+ on revenue and contractors 3% to 3.9% on taking most of the contractual risk?

[stdyeddy] 20/9/2023 11:55

I feel for you Mark. It must be utter torture for you to read this board. I wonder why you put yourself through it.

Happily the share price continues to rise. The recent results are vindication for the 'bulls' who didn't believe it was all over for Kier -- the company is making a strong recovery.

[muckshifter] 20/9/2023 11:02

I sympathise with marksp's view because many of my old friends at Kier will have retired with large shareholdings from the management buyout days thinking they were going to have a wealthy retirement with great dividends and further share appreciation. Hopefully, many of them would have been as sceptical as I was about the actions of the senior management after John Dodds retired, and perhaps sold their shares.
For those of us who bought in after the wholesale management change these are good times and the future looks promising, even if it was delayed by the pandemic and numerous other factors. So, sympathy and celebration for me.

[itisonlymoney] 19/9/2023 19:07

mark, i reckon the complete vindication is in profit and the cash generation. kier is doing well now and is not going down the tubes, which is contrary to what the trolls have been saying here for four years. the bulls here have been the ones backing the recovery, not the big losses caused by the previous management. what's the point of yr post? just trying to cause a bit of outrage?