Kier Share Discussion Threads

[itisonlymoney] 01/7/2022 14:57

once again, bathboy reduced to telling outright lies. kier is still the biggest construction firm by contract wins regionally. huge number of contract wins being reported. i'm talking bout actual contracts for specific projects, not just frameworks and there's plenty of those too. last update from management is that the business continues to win business in line with plan but recent wins suggest the business is grwoing. good that the trolls here make themselves so obvious!!!

[bathboy2] 01/7/2022 13:11

Collection box might even be needed this year, losing private work, because clients being warned off, because they might not be around to finish projects, if they go bump, then the client has to pay sometimes twice for work done

[hamhamham1] 01/7/2022 11:15

Only your investments are gold and others are trash, well I bet you are down o IAG and Easy jet but you won't tell us you real buy price, if you ever bought that.
Always looking to trash talk other investments, boring.

[hamhamham1] 01/7/2022 11:11

You just cant help yourself, can you wally, you are hilarious.

You keep to IAG and Easyjet then, the compensation they gotta pay this summer and lost revenue frpm flight will put them even more billions in debt.

[wallywoo] 01/7/2022 10:50

If you are looking for steady safe income then here is about as far away as you can get! (I would describe here as a fingers crossed, needle in a haystack, terrible record, hope and pray stock).


I like thrl, property reit, no stamp duty, 6 % qtry divi and growing, own crinkly peoples homes (which is a growing demographic/need) and economy downturn proof. And brwm of course for a income and defense against fiat currency demise.

[hamhamham1] 30/6/2022 19:15

Another one i bought is FCH, no supply chain issues there, businesses will be taking out loans, they have the platform, others lend, and they take an upfront fee and some mgmt fees.

[hamhamham1] 30/6/2022 19:03

A steady guaranteed income will be king over next 12 months, no promises of future income on moon shots for me.

[hamhamham1] 30/6/2022 18:30

But don't get me wrong, I bought some STX and down 50% on those, but hopefully get my dosh back, eventually after a buyout someday.
That's the thing, I put most into boring and a small percentage into recovery plays, the latter being more fun to comment on.

[hamhamham1] 30/6/2022 17:06

I pretty well sold all shares when they trebled, and now have bought into a load which are down 70%+, a gamble, but they are only 10-15% of portfolio in total, but still holding the boring ones like banks, oilies, resources, etc.

[stutes] 30/6/2022 16:27

As BoE hikes the rate and moves from .25% to 0.5%+ what is the fallout for K's bottom line?

[zicopele] 30/6/2022 13:05

The price goes up? Kier is heading south, even as we speak.

[ontheforks] 30/6/2022 11:56

When were you buying bp at £2.00 first time I remember you talking about BP you were buying around the £3.19 Mark telling everyone about your isa and how this time next year you'd be a millionaire tsk tsk tsk you jump on here when the share price drops claiming the sky's falling in but when it goes up you dissappear and you wonder why you have no credibility anymore

[wallywoo] 30/6/2022 07:38

The trick with investment is to buy quality long term investments at fantastic prices. When I I invested in BP 200p, you all thought that was crazy and you should of spent money on Kier at 135p.


Iag, BP, ezt have long history of rewarding shareholders over decades, they are in market sectors which are buoyant and successful. Kier has lost investors £1.3B over decades in a sector that has consistently punished companies with poor balance sheets. When a company generates no cash it is a worthless investment and Kier has been doing this for 6+ years. It is not run for the benefit of shareholders, and has not been for years now. I have not invested in ezt yet but are following closely for a entry point over the summer.


In addition Kier always put out such bullish statements, which is fraudulent imo. They have lost £1.3B of investors wealth over multiple years and show no signs of changing. Their balance sheet is too weak, with (£-175m) tangible net assets and lots of off balance sheet debt Kier will drown quickly as cost of money rises.

[ppreston1] 29/6/2022 13:27

Hmmm. Not sure about the logic of your investment strategy. You're justifiably concerned about the impact of inflation and rising labour costs on Kier. However, you're happy to invest in the airline industry which is suffering from rising fuel prices, staffing issues and a threat to discretionary spending due to recession fears. Not to mention the potential threat of the spread of another covid mutuation. Yesterday you complained how much money Kier investors have lost. Have you looked recently at the EZJ share price?

[zicopele] 29/6/2022 12:55

I like Harbour Energy. Now that is a company which is deleveraging. Reduced debt by $600m in Q1.

Massive results expected Q2.

[wallywoo] 29/6/2022 12:49

There are great buying opportunities out there;


Iag, ezj are two I am considering (probably just go for ezj). Also like smt and brwm for low risk buys in a weak market.


The trouble with Kie is that there are too many factors against them;


Construction companies in administration, inflation, supply delays, poor balance sheet, 6 years losing cash, huge pension liability, interest rates increase etc etc.


Sometimes share prices are low because of the market, and sometimes because of the companies performance and prospects. Broker price targets for Kier have been 2-3x the share price ever since I have followed them. Kier have the worst (ie biased) brokers that follow them. They have both had buys on the stock since 1500p a share (never been changed). Both brokers have received considerable broker fees during Kier's 3 equity issues!!!! There is considerable evidence showing broker targets on smaller cap stocks is driven by brokers looking for fee based business, not looking to help pi's.


Imo the only factor stopping this dropping further is the money raised in June 21. Once that has been spent, down she goes.

[ppreston1] 29/6/2022 11:00

Since you like Warren Buffet quotes..."The most common cause of low prices is pessimism - sometimes pervasive, sometimes specific to a company or industry. We want to do business in such an environment, not because we like pessimism but because we like the prices it produces. It's optimism that is the enemy of the rational buyer."Keep up the pessimistic comments guys! You're contributing towards a great buying opportunity. Thanks again for all the hard work. Lol.

[zicopele] 29/6/2022 10:38

If you listened to Steddy, you would be a lot poorer. Down she goes, consensus or not.

As Warren Buffet said, you pay a lot of money for a consensus.

[ppreston1] 29/6/2022 10:31

The mean consensus broker target price for Kier is 175p. I guess they're all part of this grand conspiracy then? Wow, where would all those uneducated PI's be without your astute advice to save everyone from being fleeced. We should all thank you for your public service. I guess you must look into the mirror every day and pat yourself on the back. Hope you're being paid well for all your hard work. Lol.

[zicopele] 29/6/2022 09:25

He has no credibility. Posting rubbish about contract awards as if they are a pot of gold.

He should hang his head in shame.

[wallywoo] 29/6/2022 08:37

Just think of all those investors that Stdy has managed to con into buying this rubbish over the last 3 years (With messages of contracts and his opinion of how Kier will make you rich).He must be very proud of his legacy. Working so hard to ensure this worthless investment is purchased and poor investors were induced to losing their money here.Personally don't know how he sleeps at night. Amazingly like all delusional evil people, he keeps at it completely unaware of the harm he causes.