Kier Share Discussion Threads

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 18:34

having said the sector should go up into the budget period ,COST was down today?

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 18:29

82. Will it hold tomorrow?
A lot better than 42p anyway.. Smoking shorts is my favourite fragrance..Might make it my favourite occupation.. :)

[claymagnet] 23/2/2021 16:37

Signing on for the last 10 minutes of trading is always enjoyable

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 15:50

The budget looms wally. Going to be good for the entire sector.I think we have seen with COST (relatively debt free and with a fundraising behind it)They are doing no better or worse than kie. Debt to turnover is reasonable and cost savings will / are turning it round.

[stdyeddy] 23/2/2021 15:02

I see that the day is progressing nicely. Volume is well up. Price seems to be holding up well against a big drop in the dow. Possibly we will see a rise going into the close, but regardless, the direction of the break-out is definitely up!

I also see that wolly-chops is feeling the heat, and insisting people do what he has NEVER DONE, which is to APOLOGISE for something!!! Wallz, are you going to apologise right now to the people that you told to SELL at 42p? And again at 50p? And again at 58p? You actually gave people that ADVICE!! When davwal expressed doubts the other day, you immediately targeted him and tried to persuade him to sell. You are sneaky and underhand and have been for two years -- your motives are plainly personal and have nothing to do with investment. I suspect that at some point in the distant past, a Kier lorry dented your garage door, or some other trivial matter and you decided to be mortally offended instead of accepting £50 for a new paint job.

Also, are you going to prove to us what your short position is? I remember you haranguing johnbtd relentlessly, to provide evidence of HIS position, but after he did, you said that you wouldn't reciprocate!! What a hypocrite AND a cheat!!!

And to be clear, I do not tell people to buy. I tell YOU PERSONALLY to exit your short, but that is simply part of my ongoing confrontation with you regarding the lies which you have told about Kier. The rest of the time I merely state facts which contradict your lies, and my own expectations concerning Kier's progress -- and btw, I have never made any secret of being long myself.

YOU, on the other hand, tell so many fibs and outright whoppers, that I genuinely wonder how you sleep at night. I even wonder if you are working for the Russians, North Koreans or Chinese criminal gangs in attempting to create doubt in our great western institutions, companies and the rule of law, through your online campaigns -- we gather that you post as Steve on LSE; how many other places are you posting?

Your fixation with 'ramping' as you put it, has been roundly debunked by Sparty more than once and I feel that anteater presented a very worthwhile thesis against your approach earlier today (see post 19265 at 9.39am this morning) with an unarguable summary assessment of your status and character as a financial advisor. I suggest you read both and then sit quietly in the corner with a big dunce's hat on, and stick to crayons and colouring books from now on.

If only your mum knew what you get up to!!

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 13:26

Which is why AD was brought in...which is why they are turning it round...which at current prices make it a good recovery play.

Rampers have always flourished on the AIM market but they are individuals or more likely small groups that put out a load of feasible stuff and optimistic noises and load up waiting for an rns to land. By the time the herd arrive those individuals have sold and disappeared.
Riddler on lse boards has a good crew and it is all very plausible and fact based and of course 90% of the time very profitable. They prey on newbies and greed and mostly the people spiked deserve it. Always research! at least a bit and accept the blame if you get it wrong.

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 12:04

Lol you don't need a close over 80, Sparty. You need to own a company that has, at the very least, proven to generate at least £1 of cash against their debt mountain.


Currently there's no evidence that Kier can do this and plenty of evidence that they have lost lots of cash over recent years. Until then this is a terrible investment.

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 11:52

oh ,and we need to finish above 80!

[sparty1] 23/2/2021 11:51

Love it when Wally talks down and dirty..The share price goes up.
You would have more credibility Wally if you dropped this rubbish about paid rampers.
Utter tosh and shows lack of market knowledge.

Possibly the small rise is due to Hands and co but more likely the impending Budget next week is likely ,in fact sure to outline spending plans on more projects.
The government could use the massive debts accumulating to the exchequer as an excuse to cancel projects but that is political suicide and far better plan to spend spend spend Labour lot`s idea re a bond is nothing new and I have thought for some time
a juicy interest rate involving joe public might work.
As it is Interest rates are Historically low so borrow/spend/build/invest in jobs/ and win votes, especially in the North. We need better transport systems, the current ones are a laughing stock across Europe.

[itisonlymoney] 23/2/2021 11:29

Lol. This board rocks. SteadyEddy, some great posts over the last week. lol funny on Friday. Good to see you and others keeping the naysayers down. Would it be true to say they bring out the best in you though?

90p on the horizon this week?

[johnbuythedips] 23/2/2021 10:50

It sounds like you are under pressure Wally LOL

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 10:35

As I expected Stdy. You release 10 posts a day saying that you should buy Kier now and quickly.


However, when I ask you to take responsibility for trying to convince others to buy this rubbish you WIMP out.


What a fraud you are, Stdy!! We all know Johnbuythelosers is one, that was proven age's ago.

[johnbuythedips] 23/2/2021 10:18

You carry on. For somebody who has claimed to have made £107,000 on moves smaller than this I would be surprised if your 50's did not get stopped mid 60's. If you are short from 50p you are on a hiding to nothing. You have sold into a record infra spend that will not let up.
Let me know when the Aesop's Fable is published.
IDIOT

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 09:53

Still waiting, Stdy. If you really are as confident as you say, then you will have no problem agreeing to apologise?????

Johnbuythelosers, since my last 2 short positions were at 83.75 and 82.5, why get out? I may indeed add.

[johnbuythedips] 23/2/2021 09:47

No Wally - you come on.
If you can honestly look at this chart and still believe we are going lower you are foolish. The close above 78.60 put a marker down to go higher, we are seeing this slowly unfold. It was only last week you were making noises about 73 being breached and it shanking LOL
No I will tell you one last time. Your position is dreadful and the longer you hold it the more money you will lose. GET OUT

[stdyeddy] 23/2/2021 09:45

Volume; half a million in the first hour. Could be just a sector move (COST is tracking too), but I have a feeling it might be more than that. Either way, I think we are looking at a break-out very soon. I smell burning shorts... Poor ol' wallz. I will be back later to check on RNS announcements! GLA (but not you wolly-pops!).

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 09:31

Come on Stdy, it is only fair that you agree to apologise to the board after sooo much ramping, if you are proven wrong.

Please answer.

Nothing is up the share price has tested this level 7 times in the last few months alone.

[stdyeddy] 23/2/2021 09:23

wallz, are you by any chance, getting an uncomfortable feeling around the bum-hole area? If you are, it's either your imaginary short asking to be let out so that it can dive down the toilet or a massive shareprice spike jabbing you skyward. Possibly both.

[stdyeddy] 23/2/2021 09:22

Something is up! We've just seen almost the entire average day's volume traded in the first hour.

[johnbuythedips] 23/2/2021 09:19

Ha ha Wally. It’s bid to old boots and going higher. You are in trouble here and I won’t say I told you to get out at 53, 60 and 75! Oh well, you know better. LOL

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 09:15

Fair enough Stdy. If you are going to try to entice Pi's into buying this rubbish, please state that you will humbly apologize if the share price falls back into the 60's and below.I will do likewise in the unlikely event the share price goes above 100, which you have ramped many times is likely.

[claymagnet] 23/2/2021 09:07

Nice buys going in!

[stdyeddy] 23/2/2021 08:53

Oh wallz-a-poppin, you are amusing (and also VERY MISLEADING)! If you look at my posts on results day, I was harsh on Davies and Kesterton and overall negative, not least because they got off to such a poor start with the late RNS announcement. Plus Simon K didn't wear a tie, and that doesn't sit well with me for people aspiring to join the FTSE100.

Btw, Kier is doing fine for cash. Let me remind you of the most recent RNS on the H1 results:

The Group expects to deliver half-year results slightly above the Board's expectations. There was an improvement in site productivity through the period despite COVID-19 restrictions.

The Group anticipates that a reduction in adjusting items will generate a statutory result materially better than the corresponding period last year.

The Group now expects to deliver at least GBP105m of annualised cost savings by the end of FY21...

The Group is expected to generate positive adjusted operating cash flow at the half year end.

The cash generation has allowed the Group to; reduce supplier payment days from 38 to 34 (57: HY19); to ensure that all Kier companies have been reinstated to the Prompt Payment Code; to start repaying deferred PAYE and VAT commitments from FY20; and paying the adjusting items accrued for at 30 June 2020.

The Group's average month-end net debt for the six-month period to 31 December 2020 remained at a level similar to the average month-end net debt for FY20, with significant liquidity headroom.

Outlook
The Group continues to win high quality work... resulting in a strong order book which is slightly above year-end levels,...

[wallywoo] 23/2/2021 08:43

Ramp ramp ramp. Readers please note that Stdy is in a ramp frenzy.


This is similar to the results day in September when Stdy posted 26 times on the same day. The share price fell quickly after that. Stdy then refused to apologize for enticing Pi's into this rubbish.


Be very careful here. Kier are on the brink of a equity raise and are desperately needing cash. That could cause a quick share price reversal. There is zero evidence that Kier can generate even £1 of cash to start paying off their debt mountain and (-£480m) of negative assets, and plenty that debt and negative assets could increase.


Chart wise the share price is range bound between 74 - 82.