Kier Share Discussion Threads

[sparty1] 19/2/2021 10:17

77.2p wally.. You did not have an answer .Why so high..According to you the company is worthless. :)

[ant_eater] 19/2/2021 10:04

WALLY ANT.....120P COMING SOON.....3RD MARCH BUDGET....NOTE IT IN YOUR DIARY.......INFRASTRUCTURE SPEND ARE THE ONLY KEY WORDS YOU NEED TO LISTEN FOR....

[stdyeddy] 18/2/2021 16:54

Three major factors:
1. Infrastructure spend is about to hit record levels.
2. Interest rates are at record lows and will stay that way to aid economic recovery.
3. Kier is the largest UK construction firm

Everything else is just noise. Kier's shareprice is going to go up on those facts alone.

[sparty1] 18/2/2021 16:46

Nothing wrong with those invested talking up their investments by the way.
something very wrong about the uninvested and those that have NEVER been invested talking it down.
Just sick and makes not one tiny jot of a difference.

Talk it up ,talk it down, it affects no serious investor. Not one bit.. Hence the volume.
This is not AIM.

[ant_eater] 18/2/2021 16:30

LOOOOOOOOL IMAGINARY FIRE EXTINGUISHER......HAHAHA

[sparty1] 18/2/2021 16:10

Zerolife ,we know it`s you .Same boring apparent indifference but pathalogical dislike of kier. Pointless.(Steve) The LSE IT systems are so poor it is an easy hack to check IP addresses but you know what .You are not worth the effort.


Wally, Structure and finance ...Dead right there! Not much finance or hope elsewhere in other sectors..
Keep your imaginary fire extinguisher handy for your imaginary shorts.

[wallywoo] 18/2/2021 14:58

Name another sector that has had 2 X £4b+ turnover, high profile companies go bust in the last 4 years?


Case closed, this is the highest risk sector by a long long way. Not because of the lack of work but because of how that work is structured and financed.

SP is lower again now, perhaps another buy Johnbuythelosers? Number 22 since February (nearly 2 every month), not that anyone believes you! Knocking on that support level again, will it go??

[sparty1] 18/2/2021 13:17

Worst sector ..lol. Budget in two weeks .Cue record infra spending.Kier will get their share.
Big ship turning round. Better jump on board Wally and buy back those imaginary shares you sold.. :)

[zicopele] 18/2/2021 13:15

I just love Steve on LSE board. Man, that guy gets ot just right on Kier.

I could not write it better myself.

[johnbuythedips] 18/2/2021 13:08

Just added another £10,000.

Between making the builders cups of tea, going for a walk.... yes - there is not much to do. I'm too young for jigsaw puzzles. I am missing the long lunches and holidays I enjoyed with Mrs Dips before lock down!

I could list at least 50 slanderous untruths that you have posted about Kier. I am surprised that the Kier legal team have not tracked you down. Perhaps they just don't take you seriously LOL - a problem I suspect you have encountered all of your miserable little life.

I am looking forward to a bright future for one of the UK's largest construction firms under Davies and a secure future their 20,000 work force.

[johnbuythedips] 18/2/2021 12:58

and then was not the time to sell this stock at 50p! Idiot.

[wallywoo] 18/2/2021 12:06

Lol Johnbuythelosers, if I am a troll, then you are the sales con man. The man who;

1) despite saying is a property multi millionaire only posts on 1 investment BB (at least 5 times a day). A small cap construction company that is desperately trying to survive.


2) has been invested in Kier for 2 years, a share that has only been lower than now for 5 weeks.


3) has been saying for all that time that the share price will be worth much more in a short time and will make you rich. While the balance sheet and assets are much less over that time and openly admits will probably need to tap investors for more cash.


If I am a troll, then you are a scam artist and low scum. I place you lower than the Indian call centers trying to scam UK customers. Now is not the time to buy the worst company in the worst sector.

[ant_eater] 18/2/2021 10:49

WOW....I AGREE WITH YOU WALLY ANT......PI'S PUMPING FURLOUGH MONEY INTO THE MARKET.......ONLY WAY TO GET THE ECONOMY MOVING IS INFRASTRUCTURE.....BUILD BUILD BUILD....LAST CHANCE WALLY ANT....CLOSE THAT SHORT AND GO LONG.......NEXT STOP 120P

[zicopele] 18/2/2021 10:49

I think the oil majors will surprise to the upside. Oil is going nowhere fast.

[johnbuythedips] 18/2/2021 10:38

Cue the record Infra Spend. Troll some other board LOL

[wallywoo] 18/2/2021 10:20

There has certainly been a massive amount of public money pumped into the economy both here and around the world. That has created huge distortions in the value of assets.Unfortunately, you do have to ask though "what will come next". That's going to be the pain. It's a little like being pumped full of morphine after a huge accident. You are floating on clouds now but at some point they are going to stop the drugs.

[johnbuythedips] 18/2/2021 10:11

I've never seen anything like the gains we have seen in some of the smaller caps - lockdown has certainly brought more people to the market and the power of social media has never been more influential. There are some people getting rich quick! They need to be reminded that they can lose it 'quicker' and a few will. Easy to get complacent. ARGO Blockchain, crumbs, what a bagger.
I took a punt recently on AMGO - an absolute vile company. I am now 60% up on them and if they get clearance from the FCA to start lending again I may well bag multiple times. A bit of scummy punt but hey ho.
Have a great day all.

[sparty1] 18/2/2021 10:10

yawn...Obsessive..

[ontheforks] 18/2/2021 09:19

MGC pharma and kanabo ££££

[zicopele] 18/2/2021 09:12

Well,the trade finance level has reduced during the year to ? £125m from £175m so there is a commitment to paying faster.

By the way, that is making a virtue out of necessity as suppliers are jumpy.

The outflow on cash due to the reduction in supplier days is still substantially lower than the unpaid tax.

They also sold some assets during the year . That money has to be added to the pot..The losses these guys have incurred are enormous.

And Davies did promise big changes on transparency issues. I reckon he did not understand the company or the industry back then.

[imastu pidgitaswell] 18/2/2021 09:06

Yep - therefore the movement in 12 months was that much higher. All of that is of course missing from the pure financial debt. But is very real and very immediate.

They would counter that a big part of the movement (of net debt higher) is their commitment to paying suppliers on time - and as Note 21(a) shows, that is a factor. I just don't know how much.

I've said before, their finances are fairly opaque, and they appear to have this approach of deferring as far as legally possible the true financial position - see the trading statement in December. But the half year results, whenever they arrive, will tell us more.

[zicopele] 18/2/2021 08:55

I hope you did not forget to lob another £80m on to the net debt for the overdue tax....and that is short dated debt.

Kier is in dire straits. I doubt it can last a year without capital.

[imastu pidgitaswell] 18/2/2021 08:50

Just had a first decent nosey at the full Kier financial statements as curious about the pension issue.

The pension issue is absolutely fine - was a bit surprised, ás I thought it might be quite bad. But the whole issue is pretty small compared with some. Note 9.

What is of more concern is (surprise...) the net debt and cash outflows. All encapsulated in Note 22(b) on page 188, and also note 21(a) on the same page. I knew this already, but seeing it stated so starkly is quite sobering. IMHO.

And also saw that very long list of join ventures. That is a really odd set-up for a public company - very difficult to truly see the real position.