Jubilee Metals Share Discussion Threads

[sharenotes] 10/4/2019 21:51

It’s probably best that way, Daniel. The first person who voiced this conundrum was fed to the sharks!

[danieldanrichardson] 10/4/2019 21:43

Although not even Google can help me with your last post.. No idea what you're on about there!

[danieldanrichardson] 10/4/2019 21:26

I hadn't heard of it but thanks to Google now I'm fully-ish versed. Quite appropriate sharenotes.

[sharenotes] 10/4/2019 21:21

Actually, forget Karpman, but think triangles. Simply draw two sides of a triangle, each 1 inch long and at 90 degrees to each other (a simple right angle). Now draw in the hypotenuse. You can be really smug with yourself now. You have drawn something that you can see, but can never measure precisely. The hypotenuse will always elude you – it exists but yet it cannot be measured - therefore does it really exist? Now that is what I call a real drama. Have a good evening.

[sharenotes] 10/4/2019 20:54

Daniel,

I am showing my age here, but have you ever heard of the ‘Karpman drama triangle.’ People talk about going around in circles, but triangles do just as well.

[sharenotes] 10/4/2019 20:48

Never a dull moment here. Notwithstanding, here’s to a Q1 (2019) report with, hopefully, one or two positive surprises. Not long to wait now.

[danieldanrichardson] 10/4/2019 20:38

Such a victim

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 20:25

There you go freedom, the trolls agree with you. Hope that answers your question.

[danieldanrichardson] 10/4/2019 20:22

My bed and ISA showed on Monday freedom.Ignore Plathunter just like everyone else does.

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 20:22

Freedom, I think you've missed the point and totally ignored everything that has since been said.. Ergo, I can't help you any further or have the inclination too.

[kryptonsnake] 10/4/2019 20:14

Plat is a goon

I've done bed and ISA before and they get reported as a sell and buy on the trades list

No point listening to that idiot

[freedom97] 10/4/2019 19:57

Plat, I ask you a simple question and never get a simple answer:

"Plat, what do you think trades 17 & 18 are, showing as sells?"

I asked as in the past you've said B & I don't show up, so what are trades 17 & 18? that's all I'm asking.

Imo, Bed & ISA do mostly show up as normally the pi will hold less shares after the B & I is done. So I presume the broker has to report that as in trades 17 & 18 which has cost the pi 1,386 shares to switch £20k worth of shares into ISA. The broker isn't going to do it free so puts thru 1,386 less shares so @3.10p = £42.97 their broker really charged. Some pi's in the past have said they were charged more, so must have added an extra fee.

As I've said in the past pi's have confirmed trades showing as their B & I, like Losta has in the past. It's strange that frogs B & I didn't show, maybe it showed up the next day?

Frog is correct that rollovers show same quantity but slightly different prices. However, as I pointed out Monday see post 10381 that a pi on the TOM thread had instructed their broker to "take any costs from cash just so I kept the same amount of shares." when he asked his broker to B & I. So his B & I looked like a rollover but was not. I only posted that here Monday as I thought would help pi's understand a little more about trades showing, as it amazes me how many times I've read on BB's pi's thinking all trades showing in the Sell column must be sells.

So plat, I ask again if you don't think trades 17 & 18 is a B & I then what do you think they are? If you think they are rollovers then they certainly have been robbed by their broker.

Please don't over react, I'm just asking a simple question.

TIA

[kryptonsnake] 10/4/2019 17:23

I agree. Those on mighty oaks are MUPPETS

[cernunnus] 10/4/2019 17:19

No deal Brexit

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 17:12

That said...You would not have the same rights to complain; if it was yourself, who executed the sell and buy, using the online dealing functionality.

Worth bearing in mind, as how it was executed is important. Anything executed by a client themselves using an online portal is referred to as a "Straight Through Process" In short there is no oversight from anyone who should no better.

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 17:00

Even if it's execution only, unless you waived your retail rights as a sophisticated investor then they still have a duty of care to ensure their services and products are not putting it's users ina disadvantaged position at their own reward.FCA would smash them for it.

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 16:58

Yeah i just read H&L t&c's and they do indeed stipulate a T+2 settlement which is all the more reason why they should have just switched it.H&L advertise on their website a flat fee of £12.50 for account switching. So there was no need to subject you to a t+2.They have an obligation to return you to the original position. So if you ended up with more shares then say nothing, if it short changed you then ask for your position to be corrected.Submit the query as a complaint and it will become FCA reportable by their compliance team and you'll be able to refer to FOS too, if they don't honour it.

[fireball xl5] 10/4/2019 16:48

Is this the way instruction is given, leaving the instigator open to poor execution?

[fireball xl5] 10/4/2019 16:45

Platt, that’s given rise to a query from dontshoutatonce on the VRS board, probably shouldn’t have posted your wise info.

Fireball, Where would that stand me if HL took 2 days to sell from my Share account and buy my stock inside and ISA last year, and in the process lost me over £2,000? If this has mileage, how can I contact you away from here?

[plat hunter] 10/4/2019 16:24

I went to AJBell in the end.. Pretty much like HL but cheaper. Quotes are bang on at any time too.Transact are better than all of them though on the whole but for me I was only interested in live execution.

[fireball xl5] 10/4/2019 16:21

Ginko, that’s such a bad idea it resonates. Did anyone of you do any basic economics?
Do you follow little fat men with rosy cheeks round clapping all their non PC rhetoric. We live in a sad country of old men.

[fireball xl5] 10/4/2019 16:19

Thanks Platt, I was caught by the 2pm chime on one occasion, cost me dearly on an execution only and I stupidly had instructed a third party, they denied all liability.