Iofina Share Discussion Threads

[angel of the north] 27/6/2013 19:19

Yes....you may be a little shocked if you try others in there e.g. NANO?

[testuser123] 27/6/2013 19:14

bogg1e. N3tley is just reposting stuff from here (I reposted it a while back). As I have stated many times, all short interest represents is someone who needs to buy shares in the future.

hxxp://www.efinancialnews.com/assetmanagement?mod=mainnav

Put the ISIN (GB00B2QL5C79) in the search box half way down the page on the right hand side.

[angel of the north] 27/6/2013 19:03

To stop your shares being put on loan just put in a sell order for your holding at a very inflated price? I believe the sell order precludes the loaning/shorting scenario.

[n3tleylucas] 27/6/2013 18:52

Something's blocking me posting it Bogg1e, so I'll just do a screenshot.

[n3tleylucas] 27/6/2013 18:45

Bogg1e,

I wouldn't get too bogged down with the actual dates, there's often a lag, but the trend is always worth noting, even if the actual percentage of shares on loan relative to shares in issue is low.

[freshvoice] 27/6/2013 18:39

The lib

How old is the previous posn. You quote?

No of shares increased but no new holders

Can you give link to this info please?

TIA

[awolagain] 27/6/2013 18:39

Worraps/Superg1 Yes I sort of got...what I wonder is will it impact in the opening price and if so is it in the negative?...when are the interims due?

[bogg1e] 27/6/2013 18:34

Net, where did you get the shorting figures from pls?

Librarian - cheers re institutional holders.

Sg1 cheers. Btw fwiw it would be interesting to see how many days outages there are due to extreme weather thus far. I notice you have 10% discount for such events, however with extreme weather on the increase globally i'm wondering whether 10%, which would otherwise seem a fair discount to me (approx 5 weeks per year) might be a bit generous. I certainly hope you are right. I would have thought IOF would keep such information to themselves as it could distort perceptions on projected income, but is it possible to find out, or does anyone know? Thanks.

[croc8] 27/6/2013 18:33

As suspected Lib. The IIs picked up a huge number of the shares that came into circulation recently.

[superg1] 27/6/2013 18:25

awol

I haven't looked but it may be historical trades late appearing, it happens a lot.

[worraps] 27/6/2013 18:21

LSE show those big late trades as:-

133,500 BUY 25th
97125 SELL 25th
300,000 BUY 24th
340,000 SELL 24th
199,700 SELL 24th
432,900 SELL 24th
4,208 SELL 27th
84,832 SELL 27th

[awolagain] 27/6/2013 18:20

Germanicus can you explain the 1.4 trades marked L please


Thanks

Awol

[n3tleylucas] 27/6/2013 18:19

Look worraps, you've had plenty of opportunity to sell some in the 240's ... didn't you see the shorting charts I've been posting for weeks? You think those guys short to lose? Think man ... I don't just post for the fun of it you know!

[worraps] 27/6/2013 18:09

Festario.....Oh, I certainly believe that all of your 6 points will come to fruition. And what delays there have been, will be a thing of the past, ignoring any natural disasters (weather etc). I think that as each plant is built, commissioned, and operating, the experience and everything they have learnt, will make each successive plant easier and quicker. As, in some respects, they are still learning as they go.

I have no niggles with IOF at all, just the market shenanigans. It's always got to me, the manipulation. I find it all so underhand and devious and mischievous. All the behind the scenes stuff, don't like it.

Another reason for my wishing the shareprice would recover is that my son-in-law has just been made redundant from his quite important job in the city. Complete shock, and has thrown the family into a bit of chaos, and I would have liked to have financially helped them through this, but the thought of selling some at this silly price grieves and annoys me. Still there's a week or two breathing space yet, so here's hoping. But, as I've said before, my main core holding will be here until the conclusion, however long that is.

But, I think you're right, things appear to be settling, and let's hope the traders move on with boredom!

[n3tleylucas] 27/6/2013 18:00

"Not a lot of shares in issue remember!"

1st prize in today's Most Pointless Last Sentence In A Post Competition

[festario] 27/6/2013 17:49

Worraps, and all of us who are long and hold fully paid up shares, (an old fashioned concept I know), have to ask ourselves a question.

Do we think that the above list will happen? Or will it not happen?

If your answer is, 'it will happen', then we need to take no further action unless we have day-to-day needs for the cash.

The last RNS basically tells us that is IS all happening, so its time to ignore the volatility which is incidental to our eventual outcome.
When the P/E of this company is recalculated based on the above, it is UNTHINKABLE that the shareprice could be anywhere near this level.
Not a lot of shares in issue remember!

[germanicus] 27/6/2013 17:43

roundup 27 Jun'13 - 16:06 - 4019 of 4025 0 0


Must be someone mopping up all those sells

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Check the 1/2 dozen 'L' trades after the close roundup....circa 1.4M in total! ;-)

G

[warrensearle] 27/6/2013 17:41

For those complaining that the markets are going up and we are treading water - I'm not surprised by this we have always had little correlation with the market (beta) - the fall was highly leveraged Spread betters getting margin calls and them automatically getting closed out. That means the spread bet companies sell the underlying shares in the market causing a snowball effect the further down it goes the more positions get closed out and "real" shareholders sell in panic -We are now at a level where people are in "wait and see" mode.Either SG is bang on (as he always has been) the roll out happens and there is a sharp re-rating upwards in the current price Or there are more delays etc and down we go.Which way will it go? - i for one hope it's the former and back that up with real shares I can't have a spread bet company sell if the price falls.This is why I have always been a bit negative about scruts and the bizarre following he has - leveraged spread betting is what amplified this fall and I'm sure those that were also leveraged to the max got burnt badly.Whichever way it goes will come down to IOFs ability to deliver I for one am keeping the faith

[festario] 27/6/2013 17:32

Turbulence coming to an end I reckon, then a period of consolidation where the traders lose interest, and this will coincide with a series of updates.
1, Patents confirmed.
2, CEO appointed,
3, IO2 production update,
4, Water rights granted
5, IO3 Completed and commisioned.
6, IO4 construction under way... etc etc..

Perm any 4 from 6 and we are back in the groove.
Until then, I shall stop looking at the intraday performance, there is no point as I am not selling any and I have no further available funds to buy any during this sale!

[n3tleylucas] 27/6/2013 17:15

Mafia are terrified atm ... why? Simple, if they push this towards the critical 169, they fear another massive bear attack. They don't wanna be bagholders, but they're happy for YOU to be! LOL ...