Frontera Share Discussion Threads

[mick1909] 19/9/2018 21:45

Zibrahimovic3,995 postsDoubleheadedcoinMull over this...The final tranche were issued on the 4th of April 2018. They were allowed on the market on the 11th with an share price of 0.6p.2 days later once they were sold into the market, came the after Hours news timely on Friday the 13th from Winnifroth about the arbitration. Coincidence or what? The share price has never recovered despite plenty of good news since.I think this will be a big part of the investigation. I think YA have been manipulating the share price with all those cancelled trades too and that as well as the arbitration had highlighted the BoD to something more sinister. I agree with madpunter in I think the latest deal was to allow YA to hang themselves..which it seems they may have done.

[mick1909] 19/9/2018 21:45

Zibrahimovic3,995 postsDoubleheadedcoinMull over this...The final tranche were issued on the 4th of April 2018. They were allowed on the market on the 11th with an share price of 0.6p.2 days later once they were sold into the market, came the after Hours news timely on Friday the 13th from Winnifroth about the arbitration. Coincidence or what? The share price has never recovered despite plenty of good news since.I think this will be a big part of the investigation. I think YA have been manipulating the share price with all those cancelled trades too and that as well as the arbitration had highlighted the BoD to something more sinister. I agree with madpunter in I think the latest deal was to allow YA to hang themselves..which it seems they may have done.

[fulhamjohn] 19/9/2018 20:04

Stan

No-one is interested in you now Joe Kunt has resurfaced. He's the one we want to read. You're old hat Stan - very boring zzzzzzzzzzz…….

FJ

[fulhamjohn] 19/9/2018 19:58

Mick1909
19 Sep '18 - 18:57 - 19523 of 1952

Why are you reposting this pish?

[mick1909] 19/9/2018 18:57

wshak: thefozzer, Since when did Log or I ever become experts in Securities Law? Or you for that matter? This spat is all very amusing - I suspect that YA are going to make a loss as they won't be able to get $2.65m from FRR shortly - but why would anyone think a one or two day rally on the back of mug buying is a good thing? The money is still owed - that isn't in dispute - and FRR have no means to pay. That isn't good for shareholders. Incidentally, this is what i've previously written on death spirals when discussing CTAG: I've mentioned previously that a price support operation is in place with CTAG. I know this because I've often taken advantage of support operations to dump stock on those that are trying to give an indication of strong buying interest in a stock when, in fact, they want to sell themselves. This is how it works, assuming no major news: 1. Assuming shares at trading at a spread of 7.5-8p, and you have millions of shares to sell, place a bids in the market of, say, 250K at 7.5p and 250K at 7.6p. At the same time, show an offer of only 50K at 7.9p. This gives an impression of strong buying interest, and little stock on offer. 2. Those who wish to sell are discouraged from selling (if they can see market depth if using a proper broker) as the market looks strong. Meanwhile, the entity who has put support in place at 7.5p, slowly drips stock out in clips to retail buyers at, say, 7.9p. There won't be any increase in the share price whilst the large seller is there (if he's not too greedy) but he will slowly absorb 50K buys here, 20K buys there over the course of the day. It all adds up. 3. Problems arise if someone spots that there is a support operation in place and simply hits the bid in size, say 500k at 7.5p. The seller has ended up buying 500K shares when he wanted to sell! Oops. At this point, the seller has to either reload the bid or accept that the seller has sufficient size to hurt him and he has to react. 4. The seller decides to re-base his support operation levels at, say, 7.25-7.75p. He places a large buy order at 7.25p, and starts supplying stock to retail buyers in small clips at 7.6p. Over the course of the next few hours, he looks to sell 500K to the mugs at the price at which he was forced to buy at in step 3. If he is looky, he might make a tiny profit on the shares he was forced to buy. 5. Back to step 1, but at a new support operation of 7.25-7.75p. If the seller gets hit again, he has to either show size to scare off the major seller who has spotted the operation is in place, or re-base again. 6. Every now and then, remove all bids and offers, to allow retail buyers to drive up the price again. AT the first sign of blue, especially after days of grinding down, day after day, the bulls will get confident again and claim that the stock has "turned". The seller will then re-appear, and start supplying stock again at a higher level. 7. When "positive" RNSs are released, remove ALL bids from the market (there is no need for support) and simply sell as many shares as you can to the mugs. The seller will be competing with others (like me) who recognise a rampy RNS for what it is - a promotion. There is usually room for us both, given the volume on offer, so we can be friends for a while. Once the buying dries up, or you have exhausted their appetite, revert to step 1. This game of peek-a-boo is very typical for a stock where there is a huge overhang, and especially typical of death spiral finance. Ultimately, however, the sheer weight of shares that are available for sale will take the shares down on a steady basis. The trick is to keep the shares as high as possible for as long as possible, but to be realistic about having to re-set levels at which buying interest will come in again. Here endeth the lesson on the market on spivvy AIM companies and death spiral finance

[fulhamjohn] 19/9/2018 18:46

WShak
19 Sep '18 - 08:53 - 19388 of 19521

That is the biggest load of fantasy pish I have ever read. More holes than a string vest. No wonder you are skint WShat. Bet your "mates" in the city all love you. They're living in penthouses and you're in a caravan. LMAO

[loglorry1] 19/9/2018 17:34

Bare in mind also they've spent over $400m on block 12 yet if you look at actual activity there's not been much. These wells are supposed to be cheap eg $3m a pop. How many have actually been drilled over the years?

[loglorry1] 19/9/2018 17:11

Don't worry WShak they'll be something else along after FRR is gone. I suspect Zaza won't go quietly anyway. Could be ages yet.

@fozzy go back and calculate how much actual cash Dross and Zaza have put in rather than free shares, salary sacrifice, interest, loans which were then converted etc etc. Also bare in mind it's relatively easy for them to take it back out again.

[wshak] 19/9/2018 16:42

I'll miss FRR when it's finally gone, anyway ...

[thefozzer] 19/9/2018 16:38

Loggy,

Likewise, if the T wells don't flow then I'll wonder just what Zaza and Steve have been up too. I'd lean more towards incompetence than total dishonesty though.

[joe king1] 19/9/2018 16:37

Post 19512

Well done that man, a real genuine post, not your rampy rubbish. 10 out of 10 to you Sir.

[thefozzer] 19/9/2018 16:36

If Steve and Zaza didn't make genuine shares purchases then I'd be out as that's what's keeping me here. There's no way or proving that the buys are bogus so I have to trust in the capitalist mechanism we have in place.

Like I keep saying it's getting very close to being concluded.

I guess considering all the tension on here it's fitting to say may the best man win, they deserve it.

[thefozzer] 19/9/2018 16:32

Mick,

There's little hope of changing bears minds on FRR and why should we, hey they could be right after all.

All I'll say is that if we all agreed wouldn't life be boring.

I have to say that I'm getting a bit fed up with my investment in FRR. It seems like it's one thing after another. If Steve and Zaza didn't have such a big stake I'd probably have reduced my holding to just a 5k punt size.

Good or bad this is heading for a conclusion.

[loglorry1] 19/9/2018 16:27

@fozzy I don't think Nicandros and Zaza are long much if any stock. I know you might find that hard to believe and I admit I'm just guessing but I think they've sold out and avoided notification somehow. Just a guess.

[wshak] 19/9/2018 16:27

thefozzer,

I do not believe that Nicandros and Zaza have made genuine, arm's length investments in FRR.

I think that is very important for you to understand if you are long.

[thefozzer] 19/9/2018 16:26

Satan. I don't hate you, I don't even know you. If you feel anger at my posts I take full responsibility for this.

I would never wish disability on anyone. For the record I am very able bodied and an excellent all round athlete. If you like the thought of me housebound then that's just fine.