Flowgroup Plc Share Discussion Threads

[larry335] 17/2/2015 21:46

halfpenny
The point is that nobody will know if the sales are being fulfilled for a month or so...no-one will know for months if the boiler works as well as forecasted...hence uncertainty...
The situation at the moment is that many PI's holding are sat on paper profits to low teens...no need to sell, no need to buy more while we wait. Those interested but unsure (like you) are also waiting to see where the share price goes. There is no buying momentum, and the share price will continue to drop even on low volume as the more nervous and those with most to lose feel squeezed and will sell.

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[fox you] 17/2/2015 21:39

Hello

I've said it before, only invest/gamble money you are prepared to lose in small cap co's. Even with the bigger boys EG ones money is not fully safe, Tesco, my uncle had over the past couple of years invested approx 450k, his holding is now worth around 200k and more recently was worth a lot less - he is holding out and that is fair enough, but it may be a long time before the 6 quid plus ie close to recent highs of tesco.

IMO, Flowgroup is an outstanding company as far as AIM co's go and they have done well than the vast majority of co's in AIM and leader appears to be A1. However, products need to sell in vast numbers and I cant see that not can the big boys who make shares rise by adding to their vast pension funds.

I post honestly and unlike rampers/derampers and worse, I hold no position as yet in this co.

I watch, watch and watch, tempt self, resist and then may buy for a quick kill.

Free Tips: Never gamble money you cant afford to lose and more importantly gamble money that may jointly belong to your other half or the CC people. Never fall in love with a share. Never listen to brokers targets or the ramps or deramps on forums/etc. Man up, use that brain cell and decide if you can afford the risk. In Aim stocks from what I have seen, 80% chance of losing money. timing is the key.

Envious fools will accuse me of many nasty things but the fact remains I am only trying to open your eyes. Indeed the shares may rise but some of the foolish predictions here of 3 quid make me very angry as many fools can read that sort of thing and jump in and lose a lot of money, if not all of in a worse case scenario.

If, when i buy, even if it's a very small amount of a few k's, it will be a fully informed and calculated risk based on fundamentals at the time and my research in the company - this applies to all of my investments and potential investments

Many thanks

ATB, DYOR, if your indecisive, not fully informed or able to digest info and use it to your advantage, use a respected stockbroker but don pay them more than 10p an hour

Fox You

[halfpenny] 17/2/2015 20:36

Well well the price falls and perhaps it's due to sales not being fulfilled, let's see...

Fox is not linked to me....that's a fact...

25p maybe a good price only if results start to come in.......also any newspaper tipping is never good to follow.....

Do your own research...... And don't follow the crowd.....

For flow the current trend is down so the question is how low and even I can't predict that.....

Be careful as its your hard earned cash youare investing....

[uppompeii] 17/2/2015 20:35

Fox You - my username is uppompeii, not UP, just sayin'

[fox you] 17/2/2015 18:55

UP

Have the decency to call me by my user name here if you wish to continue interact with me. You full well know I have clearly declared the change of my user name, and even initiated a thread on this and know that the other name has not been used since the birth of my new name.

You are not like some of the parasites here that full well know that I'm an up front person but continue to undermine my good name, so be your own man and don't fear the crowds.

Fox You

[uppompeii] 17/2/2015 18:05

Is there a Fangorn1 ?

[fangorn2] 17/2/2015 18:04

"IMO Halfpenny = Fox You = 123qwer. That's the problem with bulletin board admin systems that allow unverified people to join with throwaway gmail addresses."

Agreed.

Advfn should do an IP check and ban all these multiple avatars.

I gather some people have hundreds.

[uppompeii] 17/2/2015 18:03

Quite possibly 123, it is after all breakthrough technology as were laserdiscs and betamax and look what happened to them.

If everything were a dead cert we'd all be rich and wouldn't these threads be boring?

I still think you need to do a bit more research though as no one here can seem to get you to see that your doubts aren't strictly relevant to Flow.

[cyberbub] 17/2/2015 17:58

IMO Halfpenny = Fox You = 123qwer. That's the problem with bulletin board admin systems that allow unverified people to join with throwaway gmail addresses.

[fox you] 17/2/2015 17:47

""AIM share to have a limited exposure? ""

Excellent and factual observations.

Many were wating gfor the boiler release the other day and expecting a spike north, spike indeed but south.

I see this boiler as being a damp squib - a newr, more efficent, cheaper mdel that also gives hot water and comes with a 5 yr free warranty and is price competitive with combi boilers will take off but not this one imo

Fox You

[uppompeii] 17/2/2015 17:38

I'm not unhappy with positive posts if they are backed with fact 123, I just ignore the bits that predict price etc.
Equally I welcome negative ones but as we discussed a week or so ago your negativity isn't much to do with Flow ( eg but not exclusively, combi boilers/small flats/houses) nor is it backed by referenced data (eg but not exclusively, most in the south not using their boilers after May/ no boiler installs in summer).

Why would anyone top up if they are positive? Surely its common sense on an AIM share to have a limited exposure? The positivity is demonstrated by being invested.
You've already said you're looking for a quick kill, I'm not, I've made the quick kill, my shares are nearly free so my risk profile is way different to yours.

[fox you] 17/2/2015 17:24

Halfpenny

Many thanks for the very interesting and eye opening thoughts here.

I am going to lower my buy limit to 24p but to monitor ongoing situation

Sadly, this thread is turning into an oil/gas delusional thread but not as bad just yet

Look it like this friends - all of the mass of postive sentiment yet share price has dived from 40p plus - ask yourselves why??

Are you topping up as you lot are so postive??

Only down 4:8% today, looking quiet positive -



ATB, DYOR .....

Fox You

[mesquida] 17/2/2015 12:55

halfpenny - of course one can wait until sales figures become more visible, but with all due respect the share price could be significantly higher by the time that you get the evidence that you need. Some of us are in this from 15p or thereabouts - fortune favours the brave !

[larry335] 17/2/2015 09:46

halfpenny
They won't install any until end of March at the earliest. More likely April.
This is one reason the share price is drifting. There is a dead period with no significant news.

[halfpenny] 17/2/2015 09:44

Willbe interesting to see the numbers end of Feb.....

Daily install rate
Order from enquiry conversion
Promotion impact ie increase in enquiry
Quality of product will only be realised after a while
Customer complaints on installation and product

Let's see....

[larry335] 17/2/2015 09:10

halfpenny
Yes, I'd stick to the oilys and miners if I were you, much less risk there, lol ;-)

[halfpenny] 17/2/2015 08:30

Price and product needs to be addressed ASAP

[halfpenny] 17/2/2015 08:27

Guys
Get real on the success from an enquiry to a contract. Stats will be a lot lower so I expect a converson rate of 20% ... Due to financial contracts and lock in for 5 years putting many prospects off.

So prospect to enquiry to contract only 20% conversion rate we could have sustainability issues unless additional products are released very soon...

I am waiting as it too risky at the moment....

[staverly] 16/2/2015 22:18

Fox u, talk maybe cheap,but you've had well over the 72 hrs. Put up or shut up.

[larry335] 16/2/2015 21:56

mesquida
Cheers. It's early days but still very encouraging, I think, that 5 out of 7 surveys met requirements and all 5 that qualified made an order. I know it is only a small sample size but if it is representative, it shows that they have chosen the survey sites well and also shows that the customer demand is there.

[grandwood] 16/2/2015 21:52

I suspect "installers" and "surveyors" refer to two different groups....and the latter is employed directly by flow and somewhat less than 1500 strong. That would be my guess.

[mesquida] 16/2/2015 21:41

Larry - in July the new training centre started operations with facility to train 64 installers a week and early take up exceeding expectations. Therefore could be as many as 1500 qualified installers out in the field by now. If they all have a 5 out of 7 success rate then the 20000 target for the first year will be easy to beat.