Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Flowgroup LSE:FLOW London Ordinary Share GB00B19H7076 ORD 0.1P
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  +0.00p +0.00% 0.0145p 0 01:00:00
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Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Electronic & Electrical Equipment 98.80 -45.77 -14.06 0.2

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Date Time Title Posts
25/11/201816:09STIFFED & SHAFTED SHAREHOLDERS 49p to 1p760
23/2/201817:55Not long now-
22/12/201712:35FLOWGROUP a winner for 2014 3,401
19/9/201714:07Inside the all new troll free Flow boiler room1,126
18/5/201709:50FLOW ready to implode9

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1fox1: Look at the 5 year chart. From 2014 peaking at the so called launch of the non existent boiler. Launch was February 2015 share price peaked virtually on that launch date. The share price collapsed to 10p within 9 months. The insiders knew the true story of the boiler
pwhite73: The Mug Shareholders The issue for mug PIs is what happens to the listing. We know last year they raised £9.5m issuing 950m shares at 1p so clearly the listing can be an important source of finance if they can raise or recapitalise the share price again. On the other hand they might decide the listing is no longer worth the cost and cancel it. This is a tough one to call but for the moment at least I'm inclined to believe this is worth a punt for the following reasons. 1. They don't want any adverse publicity against the company by putting the PLC into administration. This would alarm its 250k customers and draw the attention of Ofgem, the national press and the AIM regulators who are getting much tougher with rogue behaviour. 2. I'm not sure they would get anywhere near enough votes to even cancel the listing as 67% of the existing vote carrying shares were placed as a result of the Primary Bid at 1p last June 2017, less than a year ago. 3. The £5m loan note holders Palm Ventures and Lombard Odier as announced on 21/02/2018 are also shareholders themselves. 4. A customer base of 250,000 would be valuable to all the other energy companies.
entropy22: Think loan note holders have certain advantages when things go wrong, as in first in the queue but they convert at whatever was agreed ( could be a discount but not normally current market price as I understand this. If the share price rises they take the shares if not they take repayments.
entropy22: Maybe but the uncomfortable truth is that they have never achieved what they set out to achieve and no increase in customer numbers will see them either raise more cash, if they can, or go bust. My feeling is that the best they can ever hope for is selling the business but they made a pig's ear of that last time around. We will also have to suffer the constant dilution of loan notes being converted to shares if the share price rises.
sooty snipes: bullet ant. A small shark. A little deal clincher. A talker of nonsense. Big on ego. Low on brains. Hello Graham nice to see you trying to whip up a bit of interest here. Tilly you mention Stiff recently bought 90k worth of shares. The scoundrel bought shares all the way down from 40p. His motive was obviously trying to prop up the share price. I mean when he was on £500,000 a year what he was putting in was a drop in the ocean. I believe 4p is attainable. Those who were in at 20p and above will never see their money back I don't trust Tony Stiff and never will. In my opinion the man is a charlatan.
1fox1: Cyberbub. Can I remind you that neither Brexit or the UK government shafted the boiler side of the business. I'm surprised that you haven't done your homework properly. The VAT on the so called game changing boiler still is and always has been only 5%. It was originally launched back in 2014. Of course the boiler didn't work correctly. Instead of Stiff being honest with shareholders he commented that the company knew of no reason for the fall in share price when really in my opinion they did. The bloody boiler didn't work. That launch was then described as a soft launch for the real launch again that never really took place in 2015. Please don't blame Brexit or the UK government. In my opinion the only shafting that took place was by Stiff and the board of this very deceitful company by fabricating RNS statements for the their own purpose. The only light on the horizon is this. If past history is to go by this last week or so there has been a consistent large buying of shares. This company leaks forthcoming information like a colander. For that reason I expect positive news. Of course the private investors will be last to know as in previous statements from this company.
entropy22: With some of the share movements and exact predictions by 'various" posters on LSE, I have no doubt something similar has gone on with this share? Certainly inside negative info about the boiler seems to have come true though the company insist it works still.The share price has collapsed and a couple of those who appeared to be working the share down have disappeared? Job done and pockets full probably.
1fox1: Tony Stiff, Group Chief Executive Officer of Flowgroup plc, commented: "We are extremely pleased to be announcing the completion of this successful fundraise that brings a significant amount of additional funding into the business. Fully capitalised, we will move forward with what is now our core focus - creating a strong, successful energy business that, we believe, will become a genuine challenger to the Big Six suppliers. Flow Energy is a proven business built on firm foundations that, we believe, is well placed to grow and deliver value to customers and shareholders. We will be communicating regularly on our progress as our business grows, offering all shareholders the opportunity to understand, in detail, our business and market. As always, we would like to thank all our shareholders for their continuing support." Is this cheeky sod for real? Just read his comments. He must have the thickest skin on AIM. So what's happened to the so called game changing boiler Stiff? If anyone can come up with solid evidence to prosecute these people regarding the boiler or if any recent share-price manipulation please come forward. Surely shareholders also should have the right to know who this preferred bidder was. If indeed there ever was one.
1fox1: Why would a share price decline over a short period when an approach to buy the energy business had been made? A preferred bidder had even been selected. Yet bit by bit the share price fell. Who was doing all the selling into what was supposed to be a time to buy on such news. Suddenly they make an RNS saying due to press speculation. What press speculation?? A bit of a tweet from someone few people of heard of. Hmmmmmmm Smell something? I do kooba yes couldn't agree more about Spottiswoode. Her connections with people in the industry have hardly been worth her remuneration.
123qwer: Good morning dear Larry335 and Cyberhub Thank you Larry and IMO Cyberhub has kindly answered the question. To summarise - (Importantly, and on the whole, posters/investors on this thread appear to be nice people and I wish them luck) First heard of Flowgroup a few months back via Daily Mail article, thought it was too goo to be true. Failed to join at about 30p at the time I think. Flowgroup, the product is real, tested, priced, trialled, and now on the market. This is very good progress for an AIM stock as usally most AIM stocks are run by crooks and built on hope and more hope where the small investors/mugs line the pockets of the BoD's, but not in Flows case IMO. The Share price drop: The other day and around about the time of the realse of the boiler, share price crashed to 31p, why?? Any answers please? The competition: A fantastic ariticel on iii and im my case stopped me from investing in Flow last week (do a google search for iii and Flow for the aritcle( The aritcle mentions British Gas re-joning the fray. Concerns re FIT. Concerns re other boiler makers not sitting on their hands if success is seen. IMO, Flows CHP will soon be bettered by the likes of BR/ Baxi etc. Flows boiler has many limitations. I have concerns re the durability of the boiler is yet to be tested and like new model cars, faults may arise once in the market. I have concerns re installations costs being mentioned on this thread of 1800 pounds (pls correct me if i'm wrong) which are a lot higher than combi boilers like for like change over. I have cconcerns re price of boiler when compared to standard combi boilers I have concerns re warranty period of two yrs as opposed to many offering 5 and now 7 yrs. I have concerns that most people in the south of the uk as warmer climate wont generate enough energy to make it cost effective with FIT in place and what if the FIT is reduced or removed as I for one do not trust governments. I have major concerns tha tthe boiler only produces eletric when boiler is on or hot water. In my home, we have an eletric shower and heating is on for about 4 months of the year on average - even in winter as our home is south facing with large windows, heat is not usally on when sun is out even in the winter. About showers, my finding show that at least 50% of the people I know have electric showers the others cobi boiler connections and they may be in the shower for 5 mins. My conclusion: Based on the above is that Flowgroup is one of the few in AIM market that appears to be a genuine company with a genuine product. Flowgroup has done the donkey work and IMO another big company will soon have a more cost effective, user friendly product in the market with a great warranty period. The combi boilers can be bought and installed like for like less than a thousand quind in many many cases and often 5 and now 7 year warranties. Therefore I will not buy until close to 20p for a possible dead cat bounce and then quick in and out then see share price drift south and then at much lower prices than now, a takeover by anoth co that will build on Flowgroups success. As it stands, Flow has done well but not well eneough and if I had held shares, I'd sell out around these prices. The above is my own research and opinions and I could be wrong or correct so do your own research and if share price spikes, I wish you guys the best and big profits. (Broker targets, I usally LOL at them rarely do they get it right and often a vested interest)
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