First Property Share Chat (FPO)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
First Property	LSE:FPO	London	Ordinary Share	GB0004109889	ORD 1P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	+0.00p	+0.00%	53.25p	52.00p	54.50p	53.25p	53.25p	53.25p	88,770	07:58:13

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Real Estate Investment & Services	23.7	9.1	6.8	7.9	61.76

First Property Share Discussion Threads

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16/10/2017 08:41	Profits are going to be way ahead of expectations and Simon Thompson at the IC strongly advises buying the shares ahead of results on the 23rd Nov. He stated on Fri in his podcast you should be buying all the way up to the 23rd.	chimers	Read Full Thread Reply
21/9/2017 08:55	AGM Statement First Property Group plc (AIM: FPO), the property fund manager and investor with operations in the United Kingdom and Central Europe, will hold its Annual General Meeting (AGM) today at 12 noon. At the AGM, the Company's Chairman, Alasdair Locke, will make the following statement: "I am pleased to report the Company continues to trade well and in accordance with management's expectations. "Our aggregate funds under management, including those held by the Group, currently stand at £564 million, compared to £477 million at our financial year end on 31 March 2017. Of this, £387 million is managed on behalf of third party clients, an increase of 24% from our financial year end. "The majority of this increase in assets under management results from £51 million of new investments made on behalf of Fprop Offices LP, which was established on 14 July 2017. That fund has additional equity commitments of £131 million to be invested, which will result in our assets under management increasing further in the coming months. "I am also pleased to report that Fprop Romanian Supermarkets Ltd, in which the Group has a shareholding interest of 24%, has sold three of the nine Lidl supermarkets it acquired in December 2015 for a total consideration of €5.8 million (£5.3 million). The Group's share of profits resulting from the sale amounted to some £400,000. "We plan to report interim results for the six months ended 30 September 2017 on Thursday 23 November 2017."	chimers	Read Full Thread Reply
13/9/2017 14:56	The staff do seem to have a chunky incentive line, , however I can live with it as I assume it is a function of the excellent results in the past few years as well as being compensation rather than much larger fees being trousered by external managers, overall this model has worked much better than the churn and charge at a lot of asset managers. I can also forgive Ben as he has made me a ton of money over the past few years ....	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
02/9/2017 15:06	Nice little company this. Just can't get over the fact that Ben Habib gets paid £1.8m and the dividend to all holders is around £1.7m. There is not much point investing if so much of the return ends up in his pockets! Surely the company would be valued much more highly, and have better potential, if he took a pay cut to below a £1m and got paid through dividends like others? Also, they would probably do better to split asset ownership from fund management at some point. Until then, or a recession opportunity, I'm inclined to just watch from the sidelines.	topvest	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 13:52	Catsick - I should have mentioned that the podcast is freely available at https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/shares/2017/07/20/profit-protection FPO information begins at 17:30	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 12:43	Excellent that all pretty much mirrors my thinking , next stop 65p .... I recon in 6-12 months time	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 09:09	He really was frothing in this and on a podcast "Aim-traded UK and eastern European property fund manager and investor First Property (FPO:56p) has established a major new fund, Fprop Offices LP, with eight institutional investors to invest in office blocks and business parks across England. The £182m equity raised at first close equates to £260m of buying power based on the new fund’s maximum 30 per cent gearing level, a considerable sum in relation to First Property’s current third party assets under management (AUM) of £323m. In effect, after taking into account other mandates won, this means the company’s third party AUM could almost double. Interestingly, instead of earning an annual management fee, First Property has agreed to a profit share, the impact of which analyst Chris Thomas, head of research at brokerage Arden Partners, believes has significant profit potential. He estimates that based on an initial yield of 6.2 per cent on purchase, and after taking into account debt funding allowed, the new fund would generate a 7.5 per cent return on equity and produce a profit share of £1.36m for First Property plus an additional £200,000 on the company’s £3m co-investment. After factoring in bonus allocations, then this would produce a £1.1m contribution at the pre-tax level. Moreover, if the new fund generates an annual internal rate of return of between 7.5 per cent to 15 per cent then the financial returns ratchet up for First Property; the company is entitled to 25 per cent of the total profits in this scenario, thus highlighting the potential for additional profit upside if investment returns are boosted by capital gains. It’s only fair to point out that if capital losses exceed income in any one year, then there would be a claw back on income paid in prior years, a sensible arrangement in my view. The point being that as Fprop Offices LP’s capital is deployed on acquisitions, expect major earnings upgrades. That’s because Arden’s current year pre-tax profit estimate of £9.1m, up from £8.6m in the 12 months to end March 2017, doesn’t take into account any contribution from the new fund and is solely based on First Property reporting annual revenues of £25.1m, almost all of which are recurring. It’s also worth flagging up that the proportion of First Property’s profits earned from fund management activities is set to more than double to 18 per cent. In turn, this offers potential for investors to attribute a higher multiple to this fast growing profit stream, and with good reason as fund management profit largely drops through to cash and should enable the company to pay a higher proportion of its earnings as dividends. In other words, there is scope for earnings multiple expansion and upgrades from the Fprop Offices LP fund to drive the share price. In addition, there is potential for upgrades if First Property deploys some of the £13m free cash on its balance sheet on further debt-funded and earnings accretive purchases of high-yielding commercial property in Eastern Europe, or if sterling remains weak against the euro. That’s because Mr Thomas has conservatively factored in an average exchange rate of £1:€1.189, well above the current rate of £1:€1.14, on the profits First Property earns from its 10 wholly owned overseas investment properties. The bottom line is that rated on 9.5 times prospective earnings, offering a 2.9 per cent forward dividend yield and priced on 1.2 times book value, the risk:reward ratio remains skewed to the upside. So, having first recommended buying First Property's shares at 18.5p in my 2011 Bargain Shares Portfolio, booked dividends of 7.265p a share excluding the final payout of 1.1p which goes ex-dividend on 31 August 2017, and last advised running profits at 53p ('Small-cap gems', 13 Jun 2017), given the obvious potential for earnings upgrades, I now rate them a buy at 56p and have a new target price of 65p"	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 15:15	Expect a ic note from Simon Thompson soon frothing at the mouth over this ....	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 14:46	The fees on this mandate should be worth between 5 and 25 million pounds over the 7 year life of the deal, assuming the properties rental gets them to the 7.5 pct irr then they will in effect get the rent on 25 mio of property and the asset appreciation on 50 mio of real estate , which on a 60 mio market cap is a very decent deal , should be worth 5-10p on the shares just in this deal, however the fact they are printing a deal of this size once a year means they have built a great business that is being valued at nothing.	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
17/7/2017 12:08	Excellent new mandate and the fee structure underlines the ability of the group to work for their investors, this will get aum over 1 billion usd and at some point the asset manager side of the business should lead to the group trading on a very significant nav premium.	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
17/7/2017 08:05	Nice one Tomps	dorset64	Read Full Thread Reply
17/7/2017 07:34	Video: First Property Group PLC Fund established to invest in UK office property Http://www.piworld.co.uk/2017/07/17/first-property-group-fpo-new-uk-property-fund-fprop-offices-lp/ CEO Ben Habib and Director, Business Development Jeremy Barkes talk about the new £180 million UK office fund. The fund – 00:26 The opportunity – 1:06 The payment structure – 1:39 The wider portfolio – 2:15 The future – 3:19	tomps2	Read Full Thread Reply
03/7/2017 21:29	That bit puzzled me too but hey ho as theyre still doing everything else pretty much to perfection.	dorset64	Read Full Thread Reply
08/6/2017 14:12	T-rex, yes I agree with all those points. It seems odd not to increase the dividend some more.	blobby	Read Full Thread Reply
08/6/2017 12:05	Good results. Disappointed at small increase in dividend. Happy to hold for the foreseeable future.	tyranosaurus	Read Full Thread Reply
08/6/2017 07:58	Simon Thompson had written "Analyst Chris Thomas at broker Arden Partners is pencilling in a rise in adjusted pre-tax profits from £7.7m to £9.2m to produce EPS of 5.6p" From what I can tell pre tax profit was actually 9.14m (so just below) but EPS was 6.75p (so well above expected). Can that even make sense?	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
08/6/2017 07:45	I can't spot much not to like in the prelim results posted this morning. "Profit before tax up 24% to a record GBP9.14 million; -- Total assets under management up 35% to GBP477 million (2016: GBP353 million), third party assets under management up 60% to GBP313 million; -- Annualised fund management fee income at year end up 46% to GBP2.45 million and rising (2016: GBP1.68 million); -- Group cash balances increased to GBP15.95 million (2016: GBP8.98 million); "	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
07/6/2017 13:19	Results out tomorrow , shares seem to be inching up ahead of them ...	catsick	Read Full Thread Reply
12/4/2017 10:12	Funny isn't it - portfolio successes and independent awards, but still under the radar for most PI's. Significant growth to be realised on this one, and still cheap enough to add before the wider market twigs - exactly my kind of stock! I'm nervous even posting about it before I've finished building my holding, but I guess if you're reading this then you already twigged, so what the hell.	simonsaid1	Read Full Thread Reply
12/4/2017 09:23	Some good news - see todays RNS: "First Property wins two prestigious awards from MSCI First Property Group plc (AIM: FPO), the property fund manager and investor, is pleased to announce that its fund, UK Pension Property Portfolio LP (UK PPP LP), has been awarded best "Small Specialist Fund" by MSCI as part of its annual UK Property Investment Awards 2017"	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
11/4/2017 16:53	Sorry I posted that to the wrong thread - FPO is a solid performer, i was whining about LRM!	simonsaid1	Read Full Thread Reply
11/4/2017 15:42	Simonsaid - its up about 16% in the last month. I'm content with that ;)	glawsiain	Read Full Thread Reply
11/4/2017 03:56	I buyer 💰💰💰💰	jackson83	Read Full Thread Reply
11/4/2017 03:51	💰...I thinking of purchasing 1 million shares of the price holds 📈📉	jackson83	Read Full Thread Reply

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