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[currypasty] 13/11/2017 10:31

obviously a buyer about.. is it wressle, or progress on Irish Atlantic, someone has got wind of?

[jusmasel99] 13/11/2017 09:07

So what might the inspector say at the end of this farce ...

a) I have to decide whether or not NLC were correct in refusing this planning application. Their reasons for refusal given at the committee meeting were basically not enough information and a distrust of the Government Agency which is empowered to oversee such developments. I conclude that these were not reasonable grounds for refusal and the decision at best should have been deferred.

b) I then have to decide has sufficient information been provided to me at this hearing in order to determine whether or not to grant the appeal. I find that there has been and I will allow the appeal subject to the following conditions: xxxxx

c) On the matter of costs I find the actions of the NLC planning committee unreasonable. They have previously allowed Egdon the expense of drilling a well which successfully found hydrocarbons then subsequently refuse them permission to extract them. They also refused a 12 month extension to the retention of the site while this appeal was being heard yet they allowed permission for Egdon to go ahead and drill ground water monitoring boreholes. I find that this behaviour disgraceful and as a result I find for EGdon in the matter of costs.

d) to answer some questions put by the public: extraction of oil onshore UK will have a nett positive effect on the environment as it clearly reduces the amount of oil needed to be imported into this country and in addition it will obviously have a great benefit to the local and national economy.

e) to put the risk of contamination of ground water into persepective - the oil will be extracted by a pump - it is not a 'gusher' - the worst case scenario is that a bucket of oil may be spilled by someone cleaning up the basin surrounding the oil tanks and that is hardly likely to jump on it s own over the barrier surrounding the site or through an impermeable membrane downwards. Some of the arguments put forward about this membrane were frankly ridiculous and not worth considering.

Can't imagine he will say much differently

[currypasty] 13/11/2017 08:34

I am hopeful the inspector will be experienced enough to see through all the tosh and conclude the council should have listened to their planning officer, the various responsible government organisations, and edr's professional statements, and not a handful of tree huggers, who would oppose anything

[itsriskythat] 11/11/2017 09:28

I'm assuming the next two days are just for the inspector to ask his own questions, but no further evidence from Egdon and N Lincs and the public will be submitted.

[currypasty] 11/11/2017 09:21

nearly 4 million traded friday

[currypasty] 10/11/2017 17:32

starts again tuesday

[itsriskythat] 10/11/2017 16:56

DrillOrDrop says today:

"Live updates from the final day of evidence at the public inquiry into plans by Egdon Resources to produce oil from its site at Wressle in Lincolnshire."

Having heard all the evidence what happens next?

[cheek212] 10/11/2017 16:33

Good end to the day even if it did drop back a little in the end. After a steady week, nice to see a blue close.

[currypasty] 10/11/2017 16:11

The inspector has let them all have their say, nobody can complain about being gagged on this one. However 90% of what protestors have said is nothing to do with the task in hand, ie decide if the council decision followed guidelines, and was sound. It clearly was not!

[jusmasel99] 10/11/2017 15:03

DEcision date will be announced next week - could be early January

North Lincs dug their own grave with the questioning - errors or no errors by ourt consultants.

Fact is there was no reason for refusal only for deferment and eventual suitable conditions. If they are arguing that the impermeable membrane isn't the right one then that is not a reason for refusal if stated as a condition it is strengthened.

For goodness sake - asking what might cause the impermeable membrane to leak?

And the coup de grace I am sure will be delivered soon enough when Egdon explain the quantities of hydrocarbons that could potentially leak here. Drips. If you read the documents they submitted they even had to explain to North Lincs experts that oil actually floats on water.

North Lincs fighting to save costs being awearded against them only and I don't think its going to work.

High pressure gas trapped by a clay seal for millions of years and they think this seal is actually permeable after all? Total nonsense.

[cheek212] 10/11/2017 15:03

All finished for the weekend- nice and early!! No wonder it's lasting so long!Some good buys coming in this afternoon though after a quiet week.

[cheek212] 10/11/2017 11:59

I think we need to take into account that what we are reading is written by an 'independent' reporter on a site reporting news for the opposition, so unclear exactly how neutral the reporting is! I suspect that there may well be a leaning towards the oppositions POV rather than with the Egdon's witnesses etc albeit the reporting does suggest several errors so far but exactly how serious these are or what effect they have on the drilling is unknown.I suspect that lots of mountains are being made out of molehills!!

[itsriskythat] 10/11/2017 11:33

10:23am Cross-examination of Dodds

Some pretty robust questioning by Evans, exposes some incorrect witness statements by Dodds.

[currypasty] 10/11/2017 11:25

EDR, and UJO both ticked up.. perhaps their punters are more optimistic on how the Wressle enquiry is progressing

[currypasty] 10/11/2017 10:26

yes, day 4...

[greatfull dead] 09/11/2017 16:24

I got bored yesterday listening to the planning committee. So much drivel.....

GLA,
GD

[currypasty] 09/11/2017 13:22

"The inquiry resumes at 2.15pm to hear Egdon Resource’s next witness"


he/she better be good!

[cheek212] 09/11/2017 10:31

CP - my thoughts exactly. Hopefully the inspector is ignoring all of these comments! This is the first appeal I have followed so new ground for me but so far it just seems like lots of people bringing up reasons why the permission should be refused and not discussing the actual reasons for why it was declined!

[currypasty] 09/11/2017 10:23

It seems they are bringing new issues into the equation that were not there at the planning refusals, surely that shouldn't be allowed?

[cheek212] 09/11/2017 10:12

Mrs Turner has come up with a new one - the weather! Not heard anyone come up with that reason for not giving permission yet!!And two earthquakes a month in Broughton apparently! That's more than Japan I reckon!! LolWhat I don't understand is why are all of these people bring allowed to talk? Surely this is about appealing the declined planning permission, not starting afresh with applying for a new permission on a new site??

[currypasty] 09/11/2017 09:56

they should be ashamed having this in the tittle of the rag..

"Independent journalism on fracking, onshore oil and gas and the reactions to it"