Eurasian Share Discussion Threads

[tanzz786] 17/5/2013 17:40

Independent Board Rejects Initial Bid.....

[tanzz786] 17/5/2013 17:36

300p plus 30% premium = 390p - thee is also a possibility of a hostile counter bid by KAZ PLUS Suleiman Kerimov nearer 445p - I do not think that independent board will take a bid that seriously undervalues the company without fighting back....this share price movement is based on speculation and rumour mongering - wonder who made a packet shorting the stock today? Blackrock?

[matt123d] 17/5/2013 16:24

247p, cash and KAZ shares.

[careful] 17/5/2013 15:41

enrc has gearing of under 50%.
like most miners it has debts, but a huge asset base to support them.
net wassets over $11bn

[molatovkid] 17/5/2013 15:38

I am right in saying that ENRC has big debts?

[careful] 17/5/2013 15:36

there must be some scope for negotiation here.
there are a couple of weeks to go.
the first low ball offer will be rejected on behalf of the minority shareholders.

[hyden] 17/5/2013 15:22

Sold out first thing this morning. Was feeling very foolish as I watched the price rise. Question now is: do I buy back in hoping for another bite of the cherry or do I move on. Downside possibly limited to c. 225p but what is the likely upside? 300p doesn't seem worth it.

[careful] 17/5/2013 15:16

yes, just read the release.
that is probably all that bloomberg knows as well.
are they guessing when they say below 300p, or have they inside info i wonder.

[careful] 17/5/2013 15:12

what letter dr.bio?
is this all speculation.

[dr biotech] 17/5/2013 15:10

Letter doesn't say what the offer is, just that it they are cheapskates. Another 2 weeks leeway too.

[careful] 17/5/2013 15:00

p.s. i reckon bloomberg may be wrong.
not for the first time.

[careful] 17/5/2013 14:58

just been buying more kaz and enrc.
like an alcoholic, i was too ashamed to admit it.
but with a fellow traveller such as yourself i can come clean.

my reasoning is;
1.it will be very close to 300p.
2. KAZ is still great value. it will have a further non cash writedown but it will receive a pile of cash instead.

[and1] 17/5/2013 14:56

doesnt kaz have to agree to that offer? why would their oligarchs take such a loss? they plan to remain listed in uk?

[wish i wasnt in rbs] 17/5/2013 14:47

Careful - time to average down ?

[careful] 17/5/2013 14:39

you have to admit it is clever of them.
capitalism at its best.

list in london.
raise a ton of money issuing new shares.
bribe the usual suspects in london to smooth the way.

drive the share price down, then buy back at a much lower price.
the crime of the century, and it is all legal.

[alchemy30] 17/5/2013 14:33

as clear as mud

[dr biotech] 17/5/2013 14:32

not one of my better trades.

[racg] 17/5/2013 14:29

Oh we'll they are looking to steal it. I guess who can blame them if the stock exchange wants to value them at buttons.

[alchemy30] 17/5/2013 14:23

ENRC Founders Said to Detail Offer Below 300 Pence in Bid Letter
By Firat Kayakiran & Matthew Campbell - May 17, 2013 3:00 PM GMT

[dr biotech] 17/5/2013 14:21

its a bit odd - the price has spiked up a few times today looking like a positive leak. Kerimow selling wouldn't fill me with confidence though.

FWIW I have taken a small punt at 282 on a bid materialising. Guaranteed stop less in case nothing happens and bid called off our of hours.

[racg] 17/5/2013 14:06

What is it though?