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[chartingcharlie] 17/6/2013 17:15

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[eipgam] 07/6/2012 15:02

I don't know about previous liquidations...? but I do know of "the suppliers they have stuffed" with their silly buying policy and their unique way of rectifying their own mistakes.

I wasn't one of them, I hasten to add...

[clocktower] 07/6/2012 13:55

They built it and destroyed it and gained all along the way, so no need to worry about them but think of all the suppliers they have stuffed with previous liqudations. I am sure that will at least have some pleasure in seeing them going the same way.

[eipgam] 07/6/2012 12:52

from the website

Directors and Family 66,341,549 32.06%

Not schadenfreude, or worse..... just thinking back a few years.

[eipgam] 07/6/2012 12:46

Clinton Cards sold to US firm American Greetings

If they are still there, it will be interesting to see how Don, Clinton and Debbie adapt to being told what to do for a change....

and are they wiped out?

[bigboyo] 10/5/2012 10:43

westcoastrich

looks like many followed your strategic advise and did exactly that .. :-)

.. shame the overpaid and useless CEO did not come to head the
strategic review !!

[salpara111] 09/5/2012 16:30

As someone who is currently out of work I feel really sorry for the substantial percentage of their workforce who are going to loose their jobs.

[tony727] 09/5/2012 16:19

Brilliant News .!! priced themselves out of business.. fat cat salaries for the bosses ........

[clocktower] 09/5/2012 15:52

This has been on the cards for a very long time. Other chains have killed this with cheaper product offerings. 99p type stores help put the nails in as well.

Hard times ahead for all the employees.

[still waiting] 09/5/2012 14:59

now in admin. per BBC breaking news..

[bacardi] 09/5/2012 13:16

they must have 35 million of debt bought back plus what they are owed prob
plus £100 million plus i think they are stakeholders anyway along with carte blanche

[still waiting] 09/5/2012 12:48

they'll not get any lending facilities so hope AG have big pockets..

[bacardi] 09/5/2012 12:44

This is all part of the master plan ag which supply clintons is there largest
supply into the uk they will not want to loose that.
1. clintons wanted to go private
2.clintons wanted to close birthdays
3.clintons wanted to close loss making clintons shops
4.deal done
5.clintons will continue and go on to make a proffit with the support of ag carte blanche etc but without all above

[targatarga] 09/5/2012 12:10

zztop -and thats just for a small kiosk....

[zztop] 09/5/2012 12:02

city center shop £50k per month

[tradermania] 09/5/2012 11:59

empirestate 23 Dec'08 - 14:37 - 18 of 416

Looks like Panic or not, it's over.

Woodsman, I agree - restructure the business into a smaller more efficient business, however the question will always be for how long.

Clinton may be better following Star buck models offering their cards in other shops i.e WHSmith etc like the coffee guys do, reducing their own outlay while still making some money, in a shrinking market.

[woodsman2004] 09/5/2012 11:41

Just to clarify, they have not bought the business for £0 or for £35m. What they have done is bought some of the debt for a price, lets assume for the sake of argument, 50% of £35m = £17.5m.

As the loans have technical breaches, AG can default the loans and call in the administrators. Obviously the banks could have called in the loans themselves so my guess is that this is a defensive move by AG - either to protect whatever investment in terms of stock etc they have in the business, or to protect an important market for them. I expect they will use the administration to renegotiate the leases on a chunk and run the business as a newco, from of old debts etc.

Clearly some people still buy cards from stores and are happy to pay the asking price - so its just a question of getting the cost structure right.

[p o n a] 09/5/2012 10:03

weelshgit

but they certainly wouldn't have bought the "biz for nothng"

[angus17] 09/5/2012 10:01

Still Waiting

Congratulations you have seen through the retail con.

[still waiting] 09/5/2012 09:58

when cards cost 20p wholesale how they had the nerve to sell them at £4.00 is beyond me, I refused to pay their prices as have virtually the whole country now..