Cineworld Share Discussion Threads

[ckafetz] 26/11/2020 19:39

Good comments on here today

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 17:51

It looks better on divis reinvested as you then are buying the many dips But it's still a woeful performance

[simonlala] 26/11/2020 16:21

SPR - You just got me looking back. You are 100% correct about destruction.
The FTSE 01/01/2000 = 6938.4 20 years later 6365.80
Appalling performance.
I'd not seen that before.

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 16:14

I use IG (from my uni spread betting days) and HL

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 16:13

I haven't checked but I'm near certain they do - why miss a revenue source

[crazi] 26/11/2020 15:25

William: Interesting "I love that my main broker IB both gives me the option to rent out shares and if I chose it splits the fee income with my account"

I have accounts with Halifax and IG...

Anyone know what their Shorting stance is? i.e. do they lend out behind my back?
They definitely haven't asked me if they can (maybe in the hidden T&C's) so if they do I doubt I see a penny.

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 14:45

Best US firms have always had crazy PEs Some of them are just crazy and some of them are good value - if only I could tell which is which :)

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 14:32

Yes because they are busy shorting us, we are scared stiff
if a share price rises as we all know straight away it is
shorted into.

[crazi] 26/11/2020 14:28

The Yanks PE's are crazy - but they make it work - hats off to them.

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 14:07

Yep PEs are elevated other side of pond QE for ever - we are in a rigged market

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 14:03

w104

I think you understand what I was trying to point out.

If they want to short go to the US then with their 50plus
pe's.

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 13:59

The Ftse 100 isn't a U.K. index - Ftse 250 more so C75 percent of Ftse 100 revenues are non-sterling Nor are many FTSE 100 companies actually based/HQd/main operations in the U.K.

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 12:59

A few tales compared to the complete destruction of an index,
ftse twenty years ago 5100, now 6300.
Dow 11000, now 30000.

Keep the ftse down so the US can buy it cheap so the US index
grows, and the UK are assisting, stupid lot.

active

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 12:55

It wasn't short traders who wrote dodgy loans at our banks, wasn't short traders who committed fraud at Enron, or bankrupted Carilion (that was stupid/greedy management managing revenue growth for share option enrichment) I'm almost never net short (as doesn't fit well with my instinctive trading/investment style - on in other words - I'm not very good at it :) - but I saved my business last cycle by selling off assets and de-levering after reading research produced by Pershing Square (Bill Ackman) on Ambac You need two views to make a better market - limiting shorts just makes corporate fraud that much easier (see Wirecard story more recently - and how German regulators tried to prosecute the shorts ignoring the epic financial fraud on their stock market)

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 12:54

Well I have said that to him, the fsa and Mr Bailey boe only this morning.

It is bad enough the NY shorters doing UK cine in, but Marshall Wace
a UK company, they should be ashamed of themselves.

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 12:48

31 percent short interest - way higher than Cine ever got

[crazi] 26/11/2020 12:36

Active - I agree - ban short trading. It's just greed to destroy a company and put people out of work and destroy pensions etc.

If the Chancellor can spout worst in 300 years and pump in tax payers money why not ban short trading as well. Only makes sense!

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 12:08

w104

Are they being shorted?