Cineworld Share Discussion Threads

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 12:05

Yep $5bn of debt

[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 12:04

You don't have to list in the U.K. - can be based here and list in US Main reason why they sell out is a culture poverty of ambition relative to California - eg founders get excited about buying a bit of property and living well in england Plus there's a huge lack of post Series A funding - but that's nothing to do with shorts Unfortunately the back of England ignored Bill Ackerman and others who were shoring financial institutions in 2006 and published their research

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 11:08

w104

Does nkla have any debt?

Is it being shorted by NY?

No the reason why they sell out as gvc will do is because
of the fact that if you list in the UK, the US / UK shorting
crowd will destroy you because the US want you, it is bad
enough the US short the UK but when the UK short the UK
is so wrong, like a UK citizen selling secrets to the Germans
in ww2. As you say the ftse is left with the old companies
the US do not want or need.

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[williamcooper104] 26/11/2020 10:37

That's a separate issue - we are excellent at innovating and woeful at commercialing and management teams/founders sell out far too early Deep Mind was bought by google for £400m - it's now the core of their AI business and is worth many tens of billions (and there's countless other examples) Shorting can distort markets, but so can Robin Hood/rampant longs NKLA, for instance, still has a $15bn market cap despite having zero technology

[nesquikme] 26/11/2020 09:29

This is one to watch for same recovery
Paul scott been buying it by the bucket load

[srpactive] 26/11/2020 08:40

As a surge to 70p too.

[level 4] 26/11/2020 08:23

Could do a drip to 7p instantly..for the bankruptcy bounce to 24p

[crazi] 26/11/2020 06:34

CINEWORLD GROUP (CINE)

New Holland Capital LLC

2.42%

↑ 1.79%

Tue November 24, 2020


CINEWORLD GROUP (CINE)

Marshall Wace LLP

0.61%

↓ -0.18%

Tue November 24, 2020


CINEWORLD GROUP (CINE)

AHL Partners LLP

0.79%

↓ -0.10%

Mon November 23, 2020


CINEWORLD GROUP (CINE)

Adelphi Capital LLP

1.12%

↓ -0.95%

Tue November 24, 2020

[srpactive] 25/11/2020 21:03

b

Two decreasing one increasing.

[williamcooper104] 25/11/2020 20:54

There's not the liquidity to do large basis trades on CINE - assuming that there is an arb between cash and derivatives

[invest98789] 25/11/2020 20:44

Nope. Hedge funds both buying and shorting at the same time. Goes down or up they make money on the difference.

[boix] 25/11/2020 20:36

Looks like many agree with my summary.Shorts climbing again back up to 8.4%

[srpactive] 25/11/2020 19:24

c

Yes hopefully good profits from the 20p region, but not selling mine,
I bought more today and will buy again tomorrow.

Morgan Stanley increased holding again.

dyor

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[ckafetz] 25/11/2020 16:31

Hopefully this drop is just a bit of profit taking

[crazi] 25/11/2020 15:44

Very quiet in here today. Although probably best not to watch today... off to watch the telly

[ozzmosiz] 25/11/2020 09:40

16th December

[nesquikme] 25/11/2020 08:43

what day is wonder woman out

[whites123] 24/11/2020 20:10

Link does not work srp

[srpactive] 24/11/2020 20:04

A more non motley ( short ) view.

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hxxps://www.ii.co.uk/analysis-commentary/cineworld-can-shares-hit-blockbuster-target-ii514253

hxxps://www.independent.ie/business/irish/cineworld-secures-750m-to-ride-out-virus-crisis-39782812.html

[srpactive] 24/11/2020 19:58

Shorts closed further yesterday, interesting day we had shorts
hopefully closing further whilst Morgan Stanley increasing
their holding, more of the same tomorrow and a close
over 63p.
I feel we will see an orderly closing and a steady rise a lot
higher in time.

dyor

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[srpactive] 24/11/2020 19:41

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[level 4] 24/11/2020 16:54

I'm waiting till it hits my buy order at 7p..far too much debt then they can handle.
The 7p entry target is purely for the bankruptcy rally to 24p