Bt Share Discussion Threads

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:51

Needs to be nationalised. This is a gov project really

[isis] 06/2/2024 22:50

As many observers have said we appear to be in a Doom Loop never being able to breakout before the shorting starts again. The only way to get any value is a takeover but that is difficult for reasons we all know.
Government have not helped at all, massive fines all the time and retro suits for allsorts of reasons that weren't questioned at the time. Our Companies are being used as cash machines.
We'll just have to see how it pans out but it has been aggressive shorting that has brought this down imo

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:49

Don't know if it's about dividend re targeted here

You reckon that's what it is ?

[essentialinvestor] 06/2/2024 22:48

Around mid May until FY results and whether the dividend gets cut.

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:46

Don't get me wrong. Maybe you did ok and a few others


But if you don't generally time a market /markets, you get screwed over

If not by capital, by inflation etc etc

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:42

A lot more human behind it than you think

Includes telling Algos what to do

[isis] 06/2/2024 22:41

I don't think there are that many on the Buy side on the LSE - just look how pathetic it's been these last 20 years.
As soon as an share price rises they slap it down again and everyone looks for reasons that aren't there.
It's all a bit of a Grey area how these Funds and algos work. Nearly all the trades on the LSE are Algos.

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:37

I once heard a story of a director asked to make a purchase

I can't verify this so take it as malicious , unwarranted gossip

The purchase request was because a fund wanted to get out pretty fast, and liquidity just wasn't there to quietly dump the volume they needed to, without slapping SP

They needed buy pressure for a sell pressure that wouldn't hit their exit average

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:33

Isis, they are all the same

Buy side funds shaft you much more though. Because more of them

[isis] 06/2/2024 22:32

I really do not trust Hedge Fund Shorters. They are some of the most greedy and nasty people on the Planet, many have very powerful contacts too.
The Telegraph had a very biased piece a few days ago and made no mention of the £15billion BT are investing or anything positive to say at all. Only that they were making huge profits which they are not. No mention of their huge debt to fund all this either.

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:32

Obviously you can't just trade that alone. Need to go deep and complex but it's a basic gist of spotting an underlying issue yet unknown

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:28

That alone is 30 shorts per year

Still needs timing though

Like Vlad haha

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:28

Metro bank was a great one. The short numbers long ago not stacking up in the industry

Next thing

Well, u know

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:24

Funny feeling they expect news of some sort here, or simply positioning to next financials update with some expectation of sorts

Who knows really

Not me

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:18

Wonder if another US bank is going to go under

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:16

BT shorting is heavy. And it's not like the industry is generally a hedge fund target at the moment ..globally

Often suggests shorters are targeting something specific, they believe shall occur for an entity

[the imperialist] 06/2/2024 22:10

Just hedging substantial long positions as we head into potentially turbulent times.

BlackRock Investment Management (UK) Ltd.
160,786,019 1.617 % 253 M p

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:10

Agree with aggregated list though, if includes all short positions

Oh is doesn't

Rubbish then. Much less transparent

[institutional investments] 06/2/2024 22:09

Hardly matter Isis

The stock loan market data eont be affected