Advanced Oncotherapy Share Discussion Threads

[mrtruth1] 14/7/2017 20:58

No need to be semi patronising to those of us invested here.

[andy] 14/7/2017 09:08

Werty,

Good post, and I agree, trying to swim against the tide is normally fatal, the herd often know before you do.

Certainly setting a stop loss and keeping to it limits losses, and you can always buy back in again if things change.

To stubbornly sit there hoping for a price rise when the maths are working against you is not a good option, IMO.

Hope is not a good investment strategy, and never has been.

[escapetohome] 14/7/2017 08:06

Have just bought into bbsn and hope i caught the bottom @ 1 p

[escapetohome] 14/7/2017 08:05

Operate a stop loss , i bailed on a 10 percent loss.

[mrtruth1] 14/7/2017 07:32

Thank you.

[werty5] 14/7/2017 06:59

Mr Truth, I know you are new to dealing and we all start somewhere but let me give some advice for future trades, which you can either ignore or take note of.1. Please read a book on dealing I would recommend the naked trader as a easy read and quite funny.2. Stay away from AIM until you have more experience. Try dealing on the FTSE 250 it is safer and much less prone to wild swings.3. Always run with the herd if everyone is bailing out there is usually a good reason. Run with the pack and follow a company who people are backing again there is usually a good reason.I don't mean to preach and I made a lot of mistakes myself when I first started as I am sure we all did. BTW I still make mistakes now and probably always will but I bail out fast now if I get a whiff of something rotten.Best of luck and happy trails. Regards Werty.

[mrtruth1] 13/7/2017 21:23

Sometimes it takes a bit of patience :-)

[mrtruth1] 13/7/2017 21:03

I've said it before... let's see!

[andy] 13/7/2017 20:52

The market can go up or down, no such thing as a slam dunk!

[mrtruth1] 13/7/2017 20:45

Only way is up then!

[andy] 13/7/2017 18:58

The market cap just dipped under £10 million.

SP at an all time low now too.

[andy] 12/7/2017 21:54

More dilution and the slices of the cake get thinner and thinner is my guess.

[mrtruth1] 12/7/2017 18:34

Does anyone know what happens next?!!

[mrtruth1] 09/7/2017 10:38

The crumbs could still be big ones in the end! Keep positive.

[targatarga] 09/7/2017 09:58

We're no longer talking slices, we're down to crumbs! imho

[andy] 09/7/2017 00:56

vatnabrekk,

I was referring to the current situation, but you are absolutely right, the cake has shrunk substantially in size (75%), and now the slices are getting thinner too!

[vatnabrekk] 08/7/2017 23:24

@Andy: You say "...so each slice is getting progressively thinner, as the cake remains the same size throughout."

It is actually worse than that. Before Bracknor came on the scene I seem to recall that the market cap. was about £40M. Now it's about £11M. So as well as the slices (i.e. shares) getting thinner, the overall cake (i.e. market cap) is getting substantially smaller.

[daijavu] 05/7/2017 17:25

I would buy shares in this company if LIGHT comes to market and AVO still exists when it does. Before that I would not buy a single share in AVO because by the time LIGHT comes to market the value of that share is going to be a tiny fraction of what it is worth now. Always assuming that AVO still exists.

[gerhart] 05/7/2017 14:26

Makeamillion, you say that: the facts are not always that clear to shareholders clearly there is much behind the scenes.

That is a big problem, for good companies keep shareholders updated with clear information. Not every little thing, but the big picture - importantly including financial! But that big picture here is not clear - the key about how they will survive. They said several times there wouldn't be dilutive funding...but clearly there has been, both directly, and indirectly.

Also I don't doubt the sincerity/integrity of those involved. But sincerity isn't enough in the brutal world of business. The BOD's combined clinical expertise is both a strength and a weakness.

I am IN here - unfortunately. I hope it all won't be lost. But I suspect, at very least, the dilutive effect now, and in the future, will have the same effect. In any case it will be a very long road back to where I started.

But I'm still hoping that TW - and ME(!) - are both RONG!

It could yet turn out to be the bargin of the centuries?!?!?!?! (or was that ASOS or AMZN?!

[andy] 05/7/2017 10:50

mrtruth,

He doesn't own "no shares", he holds a negative number of shares!

I.E. he's short.


It's the maths here that is working against shareholders, constantly issuing new shares is diluting the value of your existing holding.

Think of a cake, sliced into 70 million slices, then more people arrive at the party, so you have to keep adding 1 million additional slices, so each slice is getting progressively thinner, as the cake remains the same size throughout.

[pj 1] 05/7/2017 10:14

It looks like a promotional tool for Deconstruct, maybe 'highjacked' by AVO at some point?

[igbertsponk] 05/7/2017 09:57

Desperate RNS - the video is just a bloke talking about how he's going to dig a hole!