Redt Energy Share Discussion Threads

[dogrunner11] 21/2/2017 08:24

Well remembered DLG, that's 50 staff you would say Jabil are expecting an investment return on.

[pierre oreilly] 21/2/2017 08:24

Yes dig, you didn't mention the wholesale price. I just assumed you would realise that a wholesale price of 3.5p implies a fuel cost of less than 3.5p, hence also less than your statement that fuel costs were 50p/kWh. For example, the case of nukes producing energy at 3.5p/kWh, fuel costs are only about 10/15% of that, so about 0.3p/kWh.Could I mention another thing I find irritating? The plural of cat is cats, not cat,s.(And I know you haven't typed cat,s ).

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 08:19

darkdogs the videos in the header, the first one tip TV think it is right at the end, Scotts own words, REDT employs around 25, Camco around 20 and Jabil around 50 ....that was last year so figure may be more now...

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 08:16

sorry this calculation is for a 10 kva generator, which is roughlt 8Kw

[dogrunner11] 21/2/2017 08:15

Last interview from Scott says which are key target markets.

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 08:14

pierre both you and I know it will cost a company more than 3.5p per Kwh......

[darkdogs] 21/2/2017 08:12

Jabil now employ 50 people on REDT,s storage machines is that for real?, cause if it is I will be getting some more

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 08:06

pierre who said wholesale, (I can see nowhere in my post that it says wholesale, CAN YOU???? ) and in other countries, I was not just refering to the UK..... The UK will be a small market compared to the rest of the world...

[pierre oreilly] 21/2/2017 08:01

Dig, which fuel for generation costs 50p/kWh?The wholesale price of electricity varies a bit, but is usually around the 3.5p/kWh. So do you think generating companies are losing 46.5p/kWh on fuel alone, never mind their capex and significant other costs?

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 07:58

Cheek212 Trout would like back in and he thinks that fieldhouse may be able to help, that is why he has not raised his head of late, it is his usual....nothing new..

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 07:55

shavian21 Feb '17 - 07:44 - 12778 of 12779

Good post !! but you are missing a couple of things, the spin off from Graphene ammout to a light bulb that is cheaper and lasts longer......no big stides yet everything else is in research and development, it has taken them ages to get the light bulb to market...

[cheek212] 21/2/2017 07:53

I think the December placing answers the question about how quickly the business expects to progress.Trout has been spouting the same mantra for a long time but the placing has changed their modus operandi in my opinion. However these are big machines so it still won't be an overnight change but I suspect we will start to see orders rolling in over the coming weeks and months.

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 07:53

” The Jabil tie-up, which is a long term collaboration, is an interesting one in that it provides third party validation of the technology. It also reveals the ambition of both sides as the US firm will be looking to mass produce units for sale around the world "

[dlg3] 21/2/2017 07:50

fieldhouse so what you are saying is no one will buy because GEN-3 being worked on??? so when GEN-3 is at production stage and GEN-4 being worked on, no one will buy then, they will keep hanging on for the latest model??? When you buy a car do you hang on for next yearts model because it will be better????

The government have climate targets to meet by 2020 and 2030, 2020 is only 3 years away, not only that Jabil now employ 50 people on REDT,s storage machines they are not going to let those 50 employee,s sit around waiting for GEN-3, as they say they want to mass produce REDT,s storage machines.

Jabil would not wait for REDflow, they will not wait for REDT, besides the government are changing regulation to make storage more viable through revenue stacking......In other coutries they are more desperate than they are in the UK for storage.....another thing to take into consideration is that if you operate generators and the fuel costs 50p per Kwh and battery,s plus storage are half that and you spend £30,000 per annum on one generator then the savings will more than outweigh the cost saving.......

There is a reason for the statement that REDT can sell their storage machines cheaper than the compotition, work it out guys !!!

[shavian] 21/2/2017 07:44

Issues about the dispersion of Graphene Nano Particles (GNP) have dogged researchers and scientists in recent years, but a lot of progress has been made very recently, notably in the UK by the National Graphene Insitute at University of Manchester, and its spin off 2DMaterials, Cambridge Graphene (both owned by Versarien) and by Haydale in S Wales. All this progress in carbon fibre and 3D printing inks should filter through to membrane technology in 2017, imo.

[gerd212] 21/2/2017 07:28

Realistic forecast of progress?


"dogrunner11
12 Jan '17 - 08:21 - 11366 of 12776 0 0
Can't see many parting this side of news...

$263 million sales pipeline for next 12 months!! That's huge, I'm happy wait and see what happens..


dlg3
12 Jan '17 - 08:24 - 11367 of 12776 0 0
dogrunner11 that was over a month ago, that figure will have swell by now, I know they are swamped with enquiries..."

[netcurtains] 21/2/2017 07:01

fieldhouse: you said:
The company can have a great future but as trout has said ,it will be slower progress than many on this board think.

Can you summarrise what progress this board thinks will happen? I missed that bit. Thanks in advance (ideally put some user names against the ideas)... For example, how about you, when you say slower (that is a relative term), are you talking centuries or decades or years or months? All could be considered slow by some and fast by others? Otherwise, the sentence you have written is meaningless drivel - its all relative and relative to what???? Its incoherent.

[fieldhouse] 20/2/2017 22:36

One thing for sure .

Energy storage is in its infancy and research and development is still driving the industry.
Prospective users are waiting for the latest and cheapest product.
Redt have produced Gen 1 and now Gen 2 but Gen 3 is on its way.
You cannot compare the generation turnover for storage with mobile phones.
Phones are cheap consumer products.Batteries are long term investment and when you spend serious capital you want to be sure that the product will not be superseded in short time.
Scott alluded to the finance problem .

The company can have a great future but as trout has said ,it will be slower progress than many on this board think.

[dlg3] 20/2/2017 21:56

now look at Vionx, no activity...hmmmmmm..... I wonder why??? could they be waiting for someone?????

We wait and see !!!

[dlg3] 20/2/2017 21:54

UTC have been working on graphene membranes for years....... try X-flow a UTC design and they hold the patent.... it is licenced to Vionx energy, now piece the rest....

[dlg3] 20/2/2017 21:44

November 20, 2009 8:30pm UTC
3D Membrane Structural Mechanics Question

Hello,

We are working on making a model which can measure the resonant frequency of a membrane of graphene. Our plan is to (1) model the membrane (2) apply boundary conditions so the membrane can only deflect in one direction (3) apply a load so that we can measure the frequency (point or distributed and possibly time varying).

We are having trouble creating the mesh, despite the fact that the membrane is extremely small (microscale), and can not seem to apply the load in such a way that when we solve the problem, we can measure the frequency.

[dlg3] 20/2/2017 21:43

fieldhouse you may be a little late, you need to keep up with my posts..

November 21, 2009 8:24am UTC in response to Te Li
Re: 3D Membrane Structural Mechanics Question

now google x-flow membrane UTC, then google Vionx energy, then google jabil + vionx, then google seimens vionx jabi, then google REDT newcastle uni and seimens!!!

It will lead you in one big circle, covered it 2 years ago and also this year, speak with Tullynestle.....

[fieldhouse] 20/2/2017 21:17

Shavian. Seems to have been missed by our resident posters.

Great potential.

[dlg3] 20/2/2017 21:06

Pierre Oreilly wrong again

[shavian] 20/2/2017 19:49

Graphene enhanced batteries. Waiting to see what a sprinkling of GNPs would do to RED's membranes. Superconductivity - wow. And watch out for Graphene in F1. If you want to know more, follow The VRS story. Not really going OT, this stuff has a real relevance to batteries and energy storage.