Provexis Share Discussion Threads

[librag] 18/3/2016 14:01

Hi RP, it IS amusing but also really, really sad that I DO read his posts here.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. Should put him on ignore really.

Hope you're well. Sorry to see you getting stick from the usual goons. :)

[redprince] 18/3/2016 13:40

LibraG - it is amusing that he thinks anyone actually reads his posts.Well that and the fact that as you rightly state he has posted it in the wrong board:-)

[librag] 18/3/2016 11:20

Borewell; I thought your little ditty was rather good but the last post is just trolling on the wrong board. PLEASE infect the SiS board not here.
FFS get a life.

[buywell3] 18/3/2016 11:00

Re SIS and those supplements

The chart looks dire and SIS is down around 20% since I posted







buywell3 9 Aug'15 - 08:46 - 139 of 168 0 0 edit

It's quiet cos it's loss making , the products are being heavily discounted and now this



Location Location Location ... is key to buying propertty

Research Research Research ..... is key to share buying

I am assuming most holders here don't do any so I thought I would help










I think you guys need to look at the recent data and adverse press comment regarding protein based supplements and eating/metal/other disorders now affecting men in particular


Note the damage to kidney and liver comment in this piece to day




One would imagine this won't help sales much

Just a few of the protein products made



If you look at the range of protein based supplement products that provexis are making , then over 50% come into this category

Many are already being heavily discounted






I assume you guys do a bit of research , so many of you will know of the problems and health issues concerning the use of carnitine



''
There is no scientific data to support the bloated claims about l-carnitine’s fat-burning capacity, or its mythical ability to spur peak athletic performance.


On the contrary, l-carnitine supplements have potential side effects such as nausea and vomiting, cramps, and diarrhea. Carnitine supplements can even wreck your social life, because taking 3 grams a day can produce a fishy body odor.

People with kidney disease or seizure disorders should exercise particular caution with carnitine supplements or energy drinks that contain it, like Monster Energy or 5-hour Energy. That’s because carnitine can cause muscle weakness in people with kidney disease, and seizures in people who have a seizure disorder. ''


One would imagine this might be another area the press will pick up at some point




''Healthy children and adults do not need to consume carnitine from food or supplements, as the liver and kidneys produce sufficient amounts from the amino acids lysine and methionine to meet daily needs [1-3]. The Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) of the National Academies (formerly National Academy of Sciences) reviewed studies on the functions of carnitine in 1989 and concluded it was not an essential nutrient [3]. The FNB has not established Dietary Reference Intakes (DRIs)—including a recommended dietary allowance (RDA)—for carnitine [4].''


The use of carnitine in supplements is a waste of time

''Athletic performance

Some athletes take carnitine to improve performance. However, twenty years of research finds no consistent evidence that carnitine supplements can improve exercise or physical performance in healthy subjects—at doses ranging from 2–6 grams/day administered for 1 to 28 days [9-11]. (The total body content of carnitine is about 20 grams in a man weighing 155 pounds, almost all of it in the skeletal muscle [11].) For example, carnitine supplements do not appear to increase the body's use of oxygen or improve metabolic status when exercising, nor do they necessarily increase the amount of carnitine in muscle [10].''


Regarding any health benefits from taking supplements with carnitine

''research, however, has raised concerns about the cardiovascular effects of chronic exposure to carnitine. A 2013 study that included both rodents and 2,595 humans undergoing elective cardiac evaluation found that L-carnitine is metabolized by intestinal microbiotia to trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO), a proatherogenic substance that is associated with cardiovascular disease risk [24]. Due to differences in intestinal bacteria composition, omnivorous study participants produced more TMAO than vegans or vegetarians following consumption of L-cartinine. The study also found dose-dependent associations between fasting plasma L-carnitine concentration and risk of coronary artery disease, peripheral artery disease, and overall cardiovascular disease, but only among participants with concurrently high TMAO levels. The researchers noted that these findings could partly explain the link between high levels of consumption of red meat (a rich source of carnitine) and increased cardiovascular disease risk. More research is needed to fully understand the effects of carnitine on cardiovascular health.''

'' Are there health risks from too much carnitine?

At doses of approximately 3 g/day, carnitine supplements can cause nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, diarrhea, and a "fishy" body odor [1-2]. Rarer side effects include muscle weakness in uremic patients and seizures in those with seizure disorders.

Some research indicates that intestinal bacteria metabolize carnitine to form a substance called TMAO that might increase the risk of cardiovascular disease [24]. This effect appears to be more pronounced in people who consume meat than in vegans or vegetarians. The implications of these findings are not well understood and require more research.''

''People with the following conditions should talk to their provider before taking carnitine:

Peripheral vascular disease
High blood pressure
Liver disease from alcoholism (cirrhosis)
Diabetes
Kidney disease
History of seizures''


Do any SiS products use it ?

[buywell3] 18/3/2016 10:47

It surprises me not
not even one jot
to see this PXS lot
where it sits dans la merde on the pot
PXS is in a spot ... of bother that is

Only a smart@rse could have seen this coming

There is a dearth here of such.

I add that only numpties use supplements(chemicals) to mess their bodies up

Thus I guess those here thought they were in the ascendance

[senor_sensible] 01/3/2016 11:00

Nobilin Cardioflow getting some airtime. May help.....

[senor_sensible] 01/3/2016 09:12

interesting - seems a little change in trend pointing upwards - might buy some more. Are the directors topping up again ??

[senor_sensible] 26/2/2016 08:19

Yep, still a few in, but the activist investors seem to be piping down so could be due some price appreciation soon. IMO current prices offer a very good buy in if you are planning on holding.

[twodegrees] 25/2/2016 15:23

any one still here ! seems to be on a very slow climb but none the less climbing

[senor_sensible] 27/1/2016 08:37

:-)
Makes me laugh, I am doing quite well out of PXS and have done for the last few years, play the person (herd) not the ball (company)for this sort of share

[librag] 26/1/2016 12:51

naughty naughty SS. :)

[senor_sensible] 26/1/2016 08:18

ok mate..... :-)

[redprince] 25/1/2016 18:14

SS - ohh dear a mite touchy there and more than a tad inaccurate!

I have not made any attempt to guess your holding but stated that you are trying to talk up the share price from the bottom from near where you have bought in looking for your usual 10%.

As stated many times imo this is going nowhere without evidence of material revenue.The recent director buys were imo an attempt to resurrect the flagging share price to make further fund raising possible.

Anything you say should be seen in the context of your swing trading and current long or short position.

Btw I am not your "mate".

Ta ta.

[librag] 25/1/2016 16:31

SS; the moral high ground is indeed a lonely place. :(

[wheelds] 23/1/2016 02:50

Liberals promised to end student fees but at the end of the day it was all Rag.
Nobody is promising anything here other then DSM will probably buy us out.

We all know it is taking a lot longer for revenues relative to costs to increase because of the costs to supplying all these 50 plus Fruitflow products around the world along with the patents and licences and studies Provexis has to pay fore relative the the deal with DSM;

So, relative to the fact that DSM back dated the partnership agreement with Provexis on percentage of revenues coming in to Jan.2015 I would say DSM is now making a healthy profit from Fruitflow products and as the list of Fruitflow products increases the revenues to DSM will increase.
I just hope. relative to the DSM/Provexis agreement that the percentage of revenues from DSM increases year on year to Provexis.
Hence, in my opinion, the list of the ever increasing Fruitflow products is very important and Fruitflow is now one of the main products of DSM and as the list grows and if DSM has to start increasing revenues to Provexis year on year, common business sense dictates that DSM will have to put in a bid for Provexis. IMHO.
Hence, in my opinion, the ever growing list of Fruitflow products on sale around the world supplied by DSM and soon to be on sale in China highlights the fact that it is in the interests of DSM to one day, if all criteria is met, to buy us out, but it could be a couple of years yet. IMHO. and a buy out at just 3p would do me nicely.
My last one million buy was at 0.268 and I am hoping to buy some more below this, so if share price goes up, good, and if share price goes down, good.
I expect that we will get some good news soon and share price will go up and then Provexis will raise money again and the share price will go down so best to keep an eye on this one.IMHO The last Elite meal replacement soup looks good.

hxxp://www.directnutrition.co.uk/products/direct-nutrition-meal-replacement-protein-soup?variant=13806931207


List of Fruitflow products up to now:-.

56/Elite meal replacement soup
55/ Winfrey Su Jan 2016
54/Ven ReleVit Jan 2016
53/Cardio Veda jan 2016
52/ Koromed Nov 2015
51/ AS-Formula, 60 Capsules Oct 2015
50/Vascumax oct 2015
49/Performance Pump - 30 Servings Oct2015
48/ MK-7 Artery Circulation™ sept 2015 FF2
47/Pro Performance AMP Amplified Maxertion N.O. Sept 2015
46/Vitacell ® Cardio FF2 Sept 2015
45/ Elixir Vitality FF2 August 2015
44/ Thromballur Forte FF2 July 2015
43/GNC Mega Men® Extreme Athlete Vitapak® FF2 july2015
42/ GranaMed FF2 June 2015
41/HYDRINX™ FF2 May 2015
40/ Venoflow FF2 May 2015
39/ Endure Prime April 2015
38/ Tromboserin FF2 Feb 2015
37/ Artiflow FF2 + Omega3 Jan 2015
36/ Thrombo 3 Protect FF2 + omega3 Jan2015
35/Syntrival FF2 nov 2104
34/ Vida Maxx ff2 nov 2014
33/RIPPD Performance Preworkout oct ff2 2014
32/ Carbonated green juice june 2014
31, wasaka ff2 june 2014
30/Blutfluss in balance ff2 june 2014
29/ Prontoflow ff2 may 2014 in development not on general sale
28/ Flyfitflow feb 2014
27 /Song Li through -F® feb 2014 ???*
26/Sperm vitality ff2 feb 2014
25/ Cardio-in-form thromboflux ff2 feb 2014
24 Zaax ff2jan 2014
23Performance prime ff2 jan 2014
22/Dr. Ehrlich's veins ff2 capsules jan 2014
21 Fertilichron Dec? ff22013
20//Dr. Jacobs - Mediterranean Pomegranate Elixir. Poland Sept 2013
20/a and a slightly different product- Germany
20/b Switzerland
20/c France
19/ Freestream August 2013
18/ Liqui Blut FF1 August 2013
17/ Thrombophenol FF2 august 2013
16/ Thromboflow FF2 capsule June 2013
15/ Thrombalance May 2013
14/ Tomaflow FF1 May 2013
13/Circulease FF2 capsules May 2013
12/ OptiFlow FF2 capsules. May 2013
11//L&A Juice March 2013?
10/Red Beet Vinitrox, sports drink January 2013
XX/ SiS REGO + FRUITFLOW GEL January 2013-2015 DISCONTINUED GRRR MOON
9/ OptiFlow November 2012
8/ Wellness Shot Oct 2012
7/Langers tomato juice + sept 2012
6/ Thromboflow Sept 2012
5/Flyhidrate New Zealand. April 2012
4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011xxxxx fire at factory disrupts production
3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011
2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011
1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010

[redprince] 21/1/2016 17:52

It really is amazing or is it, that after all this time and the painful destruction of pxs that so many still cling to so little...

Yes FF may be all that but there are clearly significant reasons why the larger brand owners (which are the only ones any shareholder should care about) are staying clear...

Ofc we are not allowed to discuss that..

[wheelds] 21/1/2016 11:58

Chinese definitely checking out our Fruitflow:-

"FruitflowⅡ same effect as aspirin; primary hemostasis time consistent aspirin effect, so that 45% inhibition of coagulation time extension; and antiplatelet agents different, continuous use FruitflowⅡ not significantly affect the ratio of the peak in a single dose, in part because of its role in inhibiting platelet aggregation is reversible, and therefore remain after injury platelets will be aggregated; (3) anti-lipid oxidation: the tomato pigment, β- carotenoids and xanthophylls carotenoid-based defenses can be oxidized LDL, reduce atherosclerosis and coronary heart disease prevalence danger; (4) anti-aging, anti-cancer: rich in water-soluble vitamins, minerals, can eliminate free radicals, protecting cells; (5) Security: is the first scientific studies shown to improve blood flow through healthy, natural solutions, long-term use without gastrointestinal irritation and injury. Clinical trials: 1, in vivo anti-platelet aggregation begun to bear fruit and the duration of study 1.1 Test Design  randomized, blank, single-blind design; l 23 healthy volunteers (40-65 years old) participated in the study; l subjects taking the tomato extract equivalent to six fresh tomatoes in the active component or control beverage.  at 0h, 1.5h, 3h and 6h blood samples were collected; 1.2 Results  after taking 1.5h, the observed anti-platelet aggregation effect began to appear - test showed that there were significant differences in baseline platelet function; l duration of action are different, all After 18h the subjects returned to baseline platelet function. 2, Fruitflow whether the merger of low-dose aspirin (75mg / d) for the health effects of human platelet aggregation 2.1 Test Design  double-blind, blank-controlled, randomized crossover design, placebo, placebo + Fruitflow group, aspirin and aspirin merger Fruitflow group; l 47 healthy subjects (19 male, 28 female, 45-75 years old), not taking Substances platelet function; l primary measurement result: added 500U / L arachidonic in platelet rich plasma acid (AA) and plus 3μmol / L adenosine diphosphate, the platelet aggregation measurement results; l Secondary measurements: platelet-rich blood heightening concentration of adenosine diphosphate (7.5μmol / L) and collagen (2 and 3mg / L), platelet aggregation situation; platelet thromboxane stress generated A2, measuring its stable metabolite of thromboxane B2 (TXB2); PFA-100 system measures the closing time or clot formation time, the use of collagen / diphosphate Adenosine and collagen / epinephrine kit, measure hemostasis as a whole; l Safety Testing: closing time - prothrombin time, TCT and aPTT. 2.2 Results  When suppression adenosine diphosphate cause platelet aggregation, a single dose of Fruitflow showed consistent with the single dose and 7 days (75mg) aspirin results; measurement  produced during platelet aggregatio "

[redprince] 20/1/2016 18:29

Should have added that the resident dictator on the blue channel has interpreted the Chinese deal as a guarantee that the whole of China will be state ordered to consume FF every day:-)

[redprince] 20/1/2016 18:27

LibraG - we all know that the news on China relates to a distributor and not an end retail stockist.

SS's new found "enthusiasm" has more to do with trying to get his 10% trade from recent lows imho.