Ortus Vct Share Discussion Threads

[wole] 20/8/2004 11:02

Why would GFF sell half their holdings if indeed a 10p RTO was on the cards? Maybe that rumour is just smoke and no fire...

[one for the money] 20/8/2004 08:06

Thanks,Saloch, I'll check it out.

ORT seems to be going in the right direction.

Cheers
john

[saloch] 19/8/2004 22:01

off topic, article in mail today that news is just around the corner for ATR, i,m in with a couple of k,could be interesting, (not a ramp)

[maxwellman] 19/8/2004 18:13

Bob hoskins not been in too many bad films

[one for the money] 19/8/2004 07:51

Don't forget they placed 22m at 3.5p. 4p would be a profit on a 'deal' with these shares.

[maxwellman] 18/8/2004 22:42

price aint dropped though ?

[saloch] 18/8/2004 19:27

1.4m @4p ?

[maxwellman] 18/8/2004 16:41

woz that 1.4m a buy ?

[wole] 18/8/2004 13:50

If true then great news for GFF holders...

[saloch] 18/8/2004 09:08

thanks for sharing

[maxwellman] 17/8/2004 22:49

again info from broker ...correctly predicted press release re Trigger albeit a few days out...phone call today because of rise and advised that another co will be reversing into this cash shell...timespan approx 6 weeks ...target price 10p

DYOR

[saloch] 17/8/2004 21:38

went up to 6p just before the bell, am actually showing a profit on these, it,s been a long wait. max you got any more info on this reverse takeover

[maxwellman] 17/8/2004 20:07

rumours of a reverse takeover due within the month , could this be SD's exit in which case price should rise .

[one for the money] 17/8/2004 09:32

Topvest

Thanks for the considered reply. You have restored my faith in your itentions in oyur previous short post...and the header in yout PRP thread indicates you are serious!

All IMHO as usual...

Of the shares you mention, I bought into only CRB and after the recent dilution - often a good time to dip in I think. I did quite well when I sold (+30%); timing is everything in this game.

You suggest SD's demise from companies' boards has allowed them to start the turnaround. Possibly true. SD may not survive on ORT's board either! I believe ORT is in one of these turnaround situations now it is linked with Triggerstreet. This has potential major gains and deep, deep pitfalls. However, it is worth a £2k punt of anybody's' money, but I would wait to see some positive signs before I dip my toe in any further.

Good luck with your investments.
Cheers
john

[topvest] 16/8/2004 21:51

One for the money - Fine. Check out the following AIM companies that have fallen significantly as Stephen Dean helped to erode shareholder value; Artisan, Weatherley International, Cater Barnard, Envesta Telecom to name but a few.

From memory some of the issues were: lending money to his companies and then converting to equity at highly dilutive prices once the companies ran out of cash (Cater Barnard), investments in companies at silly prices (Cater Barnard and Artisan), ridiculous salary and compensation packages for himself (Artisan where he had a £500k pay off) etc.etc. Memory fades over time, but suggest you just run a share price graph over 5 years on some of the companies above and you will get the general idea.

I have NO intention of buying this company's shares. I am not that stupid! Do some research of your own...he's been booted off the board of most AIM listed companies he brought to the market earlier on in this decade. I do still own some shares in Artisan and Cater Barnard - didn't lose that much and actually took profits on Artisan before it all went pear shaped. These companies are now run by better management teams who are trying to clear up the mess that was left.

Just trying to be helpful to those that get sucked in again...he may be more successful this time around, but I believe that history has a tendency to repeat itself.

[maxwellman] 16/8/2004 19:39

topvest - obvious ramp looking to get in cheap are you as you realise the potential , why otherwise would you bother to come up with such a qualified statement on a relatively unknown share...please enlighten me

[one for the money] 16/8/2004 19:12

topvest

Interesting discussion point you have made. Would you please share the analysis that brought you to that decision.

Thanks in anticipation
john

[topvest] 16/8/2004 17:04

This company is a pile of rubbish. You have been warned!

[one for the money] 16/8/2004 13:09

Been on a canal boat for a week so not been posting (just worrying about my stop losses!)

There is info on the movie at
Storyline:

Not my type of film but the cast looks good. Bob hoskins could pull in filmgoers in the UK and Kevin Spacey isn't exactly an unknown either. Triggerstreet are producing films from 'unknown' scriptwriters, which means thay are generally low budget but with the opportunity (but only that!!) of a box office hit that could gross millions. It's just how Steven Spielberg started out!

As I see it, ORT get a 110% back (Original US$.5m bck plus US$.05m) out of gross profits so the film has to make a gross profit of less than US$.5m for ORT not to make a 10% gain. Beyond that there is the 12% of triggerstreets net profits. This seems like it could be a really lucrative deal to me.

This film business is always dodgy though...as they say - 'not for the faint hearted'!

Cheers
john

[maxwellman] 12/8/2004 16:36

bought some more ---should show upafter close ---had to pay top $ though

[dil] 12/8/2004 09:22

No sour grapes and yes some of these will come off but others lose big time , just a warning for all to see.

Yes I have heard a similar story but that was from a bucket shop run from Spain , Parker Rowe are based in UK aren't they ?

[angelobram] 12/8/2004 09:13

dil, once bitten twice shy....sounds like sour grapes to me. Have you ever made a profit in the mkts? Because two out of three have worked, no mention of nominee, I m certed within 5 days. I once got a stock last year from a shop whom took 5 months to cert me meanwhile feeding me all the lines possible as to why I shouldnt sell. Sound familiar Dill?

[dil] 11/8/2004 23:23

Sugasuga , go ask them about the dogs that haven't gone up ... they only ever mention the good ones , funny that !

If it were so good then institutions would have snapped them up and they wouldn't be being hawked around by some bucket shop cold calling a list of people who's names they have probably got off the BPRG shareholders register or some similar company.

Ask the salesman how many he holds and does he mind you checking it out with the company registrars. Bet he says they are held in a nominee account.

Also Stephen Deane has been involved with a number of disasters but they only mention the odd success. Make your own mind up but be wary.

Good luck.

[saloch] 11/8/2004 22:34

One for the Money, John are you still in looks like your hunch was true,

[twobirdjoe] 11/8/2004 14:12

This stock is going to fly I think they should rename it NASA because its going to the moon