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[energyi] 17/6/2004 00:08

MGIC INVestment (MTG): Favorite Short Opportunity?



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[energyi] 16/6/2004 22:57

Build before it depreciates, I suppose...?
I will by starting a US Builders thread- this isnt it.

These are the financial packagers for the Building & Refi industry

[trumpet] 16/6/2004 22:18

E,

Got to capitalize on those land banks whilst they can.

Let's see if the UK builders miraculously find it within themselves to build more this year too, I suspect they will.

[energyi] 16/6/2004 22:11

Home building holds up

Higher rates slow activity a bit but single-family home starts, building permits show strength.
June 16, 2004: 11:18 AM EDT ... By Chris Isidore, CNN/Money senior writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - New home construction held up well in May despite higher mortgage rates, a government report showed Wednesday, as builders showed faith in the housing market, especially for single-family homes.

The Commerce Department reported that overall housing starts edged down to an annual rate of 1.97 million in May from a revised 1.98 million rate in April.

But that was due to a drop in work on apartment buildings; single-family home building actually rose.

The number was also the sixth highest rate on record, with all five better months coming since October, and it topped forecasts on Wall Street for a dip to a rate of 1.95 million starts in May.

The May reading was just 5 percent off the December record of 2.07 million housing starts, and was up 12.5 percent from a year earlier.

"The bottom line is that the housing sector, at least for now, is more than holding its own in the face of higher but not yet high mortgage rates," said a note from economist Steve Stanley of RBS Greenwich Capital.

"The uptick in the (Mortgage Bankers Association) mortgage applications for purchase index last week suggests that this strength has continued into early June."

The MBA seasonally adjusted index to measure mortgages used for home purchases, rather than refinancing, rose 4 percent last week even as the average rate on 30-year fixed-rate home loans increased to 6.34 percent from 6.25 percent. That's up from a 5.34 percent average rate in early March, when rates were near record lows.

Gina Martin, economist for Wachovia Securities said the recent rise in mortgage rates could actually be helping the current numbers by pushing fence-sitters into the market.

"People could be seeing rates are going up, and if they were thinking of a new home purchase in the fall, they'll say, 'Maybe I should push it forward a bit to lock in a lower rate'," she said.

While Martin does expect housing starts and permits to slow later in the year, she doesn't expect a steep drop, especially if the job market stays strong.

The last three months have all seen strong numbers for new jobs, which can affect home purchases as much or more than mortgage rates, Martin said.


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[energyi] 16/6/2004 20:26

TOP US Mortgage Creators & Other Financials-
Fannie Mae: "The Bellwether":
FNM- FannieMae.... NY. $68.7B 972Mn $70.7 $23.0 3.07 9.15


Mortgage Packagers & Other Financials
Symb Company------ Loc MktCap -Shs- Price NAV- Pr/N P/ER -Range- :xT-
FNM- FannieMae.... NY. $68.7B 972Mn $70.7 $23.0 3.07 9.15 ?

FRE- FreddieMac... NY. $42.6B 694Mn $61.4 $.... .... 7.73 ?

CFC- Countrywd.Fin NY. $19.2B 278Mn $69.1 $29.1 2.37 7.46 ?

DRL- Doral Fin'l.. NY. $3.67B 108Mn $34.0 $9.43 3.60 11.4 ?

NCEN NewCenturyFn. NY. $1.56B 33.9M $46.0 $16.0 2.88 6.20 ?
GDW- GoldenWestFin NY. $16.4B 152Mn $108. $39.1 2.76 0.00 ?

MBI- MBIA Corp.... NY. $8.1Bn 144Mn $56.1 $43.5 1.29 0.00 ?

ABK- Ambac Inc.... NY. $7.6Bn 108Mn $70.0 $39.4 1.78 11.6 ?

MTG- MGIC Inv..... NY. $7.4Bn 98.8M $74.9 $38.4 1.95 15.3 ?

.vs. GreaterLondon Lon £240.K 1000. ..... .... .... .... 142- 240 1.7

= = = = =
LINKS:
Debt Crisis Shorts(US):
UK Property companies.: : :

[8fold] 26/7/2003 10:36

JC & Superrod thanks for the help.

[superrod] 25/7/2003 20:02

8fold
im self employed but not as a trader. i would imagine lenders would be very wary of lending you money without collateral because if their "professionals" are having a hard time then then will assume you will be also. take your accounts ( dealing certificates, etc ) to show them you know what you are doing and are good at it. you may have to find a specialist lender who will no doubt charge you over the odds for which im sure you must agree is a very risky investment on their behalf.
the other side of the coin is that if you could put down,say 25% deposit, that would cut your lenders risk ( house price crash excepted ) because they could just reposess.
worth checking john charcoal
good luck

[jonc] 25/7/2003 19:57

8fold,

You mention accounts for self assessment. Are you paying tax on your day trading profits? If so you will have an IR tax calculation which should suffice as proof of your taxable income. Most high streey=t lenders require 3 years worth of figures but two plus a forecast should do.

You may have to self certify your income on a non status basis although those types of loans are usually more expensiv due to the increased risk for the lender.

JC

[8fold] 25/7/2003 19:48

I'm a self employed swing trader and have been for 2 years. I'm currently renting a flat and have been putting off buying a house for a while but I'm starting to think about it again. I'll be a first time buyer.

Obviously I'll go and talk to the lenders face to face about getting a mortgage but if trading's taught me anything it's "get as much info up front as possible". So, before I do, I wondered if anyone could share any information with me.

Any self employed traders who have got themselves a mortgage? Did you find it easy and were you able to go to a decent high street place rather then say Mortgagez R Us or whatever?

Am I being unduly paranoid about Mortgagez R Us?

I imagine the lender will want proof that I am able to pay back the loan each month. Will I therefore need to show them audited accounts and if so for what time period? I don't have audited accounts now. I only have the sort of accounts you do for self assessment.

What if I put in a bigger deposit then normal? Say a 25% deposit. Would that help?

Do traders get treated any differently then say a self employed plumber? If I walk into HSBC and say "Hi I'm a day trader" will they say "hahaha really, goodbye"

Any other potential pitfalls?

Thanks for any advice you can give me!

[analyst] 09/10/2002 00:47

For simple souls who can't be bothered with hedging currencies, foreign currency mortgages are generally only recommended for people with an income in the relevant currency.

[pmeas] 09/10/2002 00:44

Thanks for the attachment Limpsfield more research required i think.

[limpsfield chartist] 09/10/2002 00:05

pmeas

I haven't got one but agree with the appeal:

[pmeas] 09/10/2002 00:03

Has any body got a currency mortage or plan to get one i find thet they look tempting and mouth watering ,and if so any problems if you have got one and how do they work regardes your balance is it statements or on screen fluctuations.

Again i apologize for any spelling

[bonsai] 08/10/2002 18:23

these were all the rage 20 years ago. turned out to be very expensive.

but with convergence on the horizon is there any opportunity for profit ?

why bother ?

[batchelg] 10/1/2002 10:49

I like the sound of intelligent finance - 4.85% discounted by 1.5% for 3 months.
But the great thing is that you can net off the amount you owe with a current/savings account i.e. if I take out a mortgage for £50000, but have savings of £10000 I'm only paying interest on £40000, effectively your spare money is earning interest at 4.85% and tax free!

I imagine most people have spare money which they would like to help pay off their mortgage with but need to keep in reserve in case of redundancy e.t.c., so this set-up seems the ideal solution.

[alex69] 09/1/2002 23:15

Sorry energyi can't help.

Is Nationwide 5.69% the best currently available rate for 5 years fixed? (Britannia offer 5.29% but have higher costs and more expensive get out clauses).

[energyi] 31/12/2001 15:32

Anybody know a good source of charts on UK interest rates??

[soulsauce] 31/12/2001 15:30

This is not a bad one I have found with no redemption penalties and very flexible.
Scarborough Building Society 1.35% Discount on the Societies base rate for the term of the mortgage. Rate is currently 4.64%. Minimum borrowing is £25000 & max is £250000.
Ok the interest rate is not fixed but gives you the peace of mind that you will be paying less than most other BS's and you do not have the hassle of keep swapping and making the Solicitors RICHER.
As interest rates are forecast to keep low or even drop another 0.25\0.5 in the forseeable future, I don't think it is a bad deal.

[mi££ions] 31/12/2001 13:26

walshd,
I considered a mortgage in Euros about 5 years ago because interest rates were lower and many analysts were predicting a slide in the value of the (then new) currency. Barclays and some of the other clearing banks offer mortgages in Euros and (I think) other currencies. However, I was warned that if the Euro replaced the US dollar as the global 'super-currency' my mortgage could double and then double again! Since I am paid in Sterling I decided to play safe and take a Sterling mortgage (how I regret that now!). I suspect that your motives are similar, if you are paid in Sterling and have a Euro mortgage you could be in big trouble if the Euro bounces back.

It may be, and I'm guessing, that the Bank of Ireland may be able to offer Sterling mortgages?

You're best talking to an Irish Independent Financial Advisor.

Whilst I am no expert I hope I've given you a useful avenue to explore!

Good Luck!

[alex69] 30/12/2001 23:10

Does anyone know of any bank/bs whose products are portable onto different countries with no penalties (in case of relocation to mainland Europe, US, etc). (I am very tempted by fixed rates for 5/10 years at the moment but worried about the costs of estinguishing a fixed rate mortage within 3/4 years). TIA.

[muchos wonga] 30/12/2001 21:26

Try

You put in what you want and it gives you a list of mortgage companies.

[market analyst] 30/12/2001 19:48

Phone - Mark Bell {The Mortgage Machine} on 01582 477715 or 07968 815968

Best Mortgage Broker around IMHO

And the harder the case, the better....

[cassiopeia] 30/12/2001 19:15

Try this site

[malcolmrbrowne] 30/12/2001 18:54

walshd'
i work in mortgages dept for well known lender and we provide mortgages for rep of ireland but are legally bound to offer it in punts(converting to euros as of tomorow). i assume every other lender is bound by same laws. what you do gain from though is a lower base rate as it is based on ecb. our standard variable rate is currently 4.29% or a tracker 1% above base.