Metal Tiger Share Discussion Threads

[paleje] 15/11/2016 14:34

Think he's being a bit bullish, could be on something. Or onto something:)

[manics] 15/11/2016 14:25

"MTR own 30% of a very large overall copper asset which alone could more than justify current m/cap several times".

-that made me sad imo. 8(

Anyway stuff "several times". Nerdofsteel's far superior Blueshare target is £2.43. Only 12,000% to go.

[paleje] 15/11/2016 14:03

Scoping study from MOD within the next 14 days. MTR own 30% of a very large overall copper asset which alone could more than justify current m/cap several times.

The speculative stuff could pale into insignificance alongside it, nobody will even mention it. A similar situation with POL where M Tang took over and led the co downhill for over 2 years to the vitriolic disgust of shareholders but now things starting to come good there, do you think there is the same vitriol? Not at all, the man they all hated is slowly becoming a hero and, if his flagship project works out, will become a saint and make many pi's a lot of money.

I'm not saying that will happen here, just that the ingredients are present.

[manics] 15/11/2016 13:17

It's crazy because Paul Johnson told his Blueshare chums that there wouldn't be any dilution.

He also said his asset trading division boasted a "best positioned" portfolio.

And he hinted "majors" were getting involved at Metal Tiger.

And he told his Twitter followers that some "bashers" are actually "paid" to do so.

Anyway, whatevs. You're right, the Paul Johnson model imo no longer does the trick and that includes the "best in class" rhetoric, the director buys, the warrants, the Mining Mavern interviews, the Proactive Investor podcasts, the Twitter Q&A's, the quarterly updates, the hinted (and empty imo) shareholder distributions. All guff imo.

A final few investors tried to convince themselves it was all in the name of transparency, though it was all just a sales pitch to sell shares through any channel Paul Johnson could find imo.

More PI's are better clued up these days -enough to render such despicable models obsolete imo. This is the message coming back from the market to Metal Tiger imo, as it is right and proper that it does so.

[supercity] 15/11/2016 10:09

It seems the previous tactics of director purchases and issuing shares at a premium in lieu of costs (such an easy get out) is no longer doing the trick...shred in issue have increased over 50% this year alreadyThe chart could easily see a complete retrace from here if 2p is broken...IMO

[paleje] 11/11/2016 09:59

WTI was the one to be in it's triple bagged in 2 days, doubt a good time to jump in now though:)

[paleje] 11/11/2016 09:52

MOD up near 11% overnight and miners particularly copper doing well since Trump's victory. If 10 years of US infrastructure rebuild really happens, in addition to the deficit situation already being predicted by 2018/9, the majors will be looking for a lot more copper and today's price will look cheap.

[someuwin] 11/11/2016 09:45

To take full advantage of the surging copper price you need to buy into companies that are producing now.

The best copper producer that is still under the radar is ATYM imo.

Update due in next two weeks...

[yanikto] 11/11/2016 01:12

No, my dear friend. To get average returns, spread the money around. To get superior returns, you need to have a strategy.

If MTR spreads the money around, then you might as well invest in an index fund with a higher chance of actually making money over the long term.

You won't be able to resist replying... You've proved yourself the idiot already!

Why even bother to reply to me...

I've got under your skin and you have to live with that!

[cougar99] 11/11/2016 00:10

Isn't investing in funds 'spreading money around'? I do agree in compound interest being wonderful.

I don't need to filter you out as I don't take free BB's such as this seriously - and I don't consider it is me that needs a lesson in maturity - however I will put in to action one of my guidelines in life:

'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

A final thought - have you thought of standing for President of the Island that you are posting from? Trump made it in the US so there might be hope for you as the sun rises over your coconuts. My time zone is probably not too far away from yours .....

[yanikto] 10/11/2016 23:42

So Cougar99, either you feed the troll, or show some maturity and just filter me out!

[yanikto] 10/11/2016 23:38

Actually, it is funny you should say that!! I actually am in island in the Indian Ocean!

If you've had the time to go back through my posts, you'd realise that I've disclosed that I've made big money on two macro bets.

I have two funds, one is my boring retirement fund, 100% invested in tracker funds to mimic the MSCI World Index which over 20 years with the magic of compound interest has proved the value of patience and time and is enough to retire on now if I so choose to.

However, my other funds started with the proceeds of a management buy out is now my main source of wealth. If you study investment strategies, you know that liquidity is very important. You want to be able to get in and out of an investment without moving the price against you. So, as I now invest in £500k chunks, I can only invest in larger companies, not tiddlers.

I only got interested in this board when they invested in Orsu. Orsu is a good example of how MTR has no clue what they are investing in. (I personally knew some of the idiots who worked there)

Also, as I repeat, the more MTR spreads its money around, the less likely they will outperform. They have invested in some real dogs.

My other big asset is in bricks and mortar, a mortgage free Victorian detached house in South-West London. (Paid for 100% with proceeds of the management buy-out)

But, at the end of the day, I do enjoy trolling the ADHD types.

[cougar99] 10/11/2016 17:19

PS: If I had your perceived level of investment success and intimated net worth then one things for sure - I wouldn't be spending my time trolling as on a free BB since 2009 .... I'd be relaxing somewhere in South East Asia (high quality of life if you have money, low cost of living, walk home in evening without being mugged, good internet connectivity to monitor your investments) whilst feeling stress free and enjoying the beautiful sunsets ! As a last thought then if you have been following market index trackers then wouldn't you have been better off putting your money in to bricks & mortar?

[cougar99] 10/11/2016 14:55

Yany - have you thought about seeing a doctor - for the atomical parts you have the urge to scratch and for your ego. Congrats on 'coming out' and admitting you are a troll

[yanikto] 10/11/2016 10:38

I announce today that if I have the urge, I will scratch your balls. You promise that when you have the urge, you will scratch my balls.


Now see if that makes the punters fork out more money to fund my lifestyle?

[paleje] 10/11/2016 09:58

Deepening their cooperation with GGP, RNS issued by both.

"-- Greatland and MTA will discuss the viability of establishing an ASX-listed vehicle primarily focused on Australian-based projects in these sectors;"

Interesting, no doubt it will be knocked:)

[manics] 10/11/2016 08:02

Yanikto: always fun catching them out. Up until recently we had gaaston (2 month old handle) posting here. I mathematically and effortlessly proved contradictions in posting (size of holdings, length of holding etc).

"Arrf arrf arrf I'm holding gagillions of shares and my broker explains my massive gains arrf arrf arrf".

8)

Bit of fun with Nerdofsteel too. A true signature of ADVFN AIM dreggs imo as the novices post guff to try and make it appear they know what they're doing. My favourite is when they quote the line "don't invest more than you can afford to loose" or "shares can go up as well as down" -then you KNOW you're talking with a whale!!

GLA today.

[paleje] 10/11/2016 07:53

MOD up 12% overnight, admittedly after the previous session slump when Trump fever affected many on ASX.

[yanikto] 10/11/2016 05:28

I like trolling... I can afford to ! And it amazes me how many guys are constantly chasing the rainbows like ADHD kids.

They all brag about how big they are, how they have invested in so and so and fantasize about "multi-bagging"

Whereas, you make money by gradually building up above average returns over many years.

Nearly every poster on these bulletin boards over a ten year period, would do better by investing in an index tracker!

[mbmiah] 09/11/2016 23:15

I think Yanikto just got clampppppt big style loooool

[cougar99] 09/11/2016 19:39

Yany - So why waste your time getting involved on a BB with companies worth less than 100m ? it is a waste of your valuable mental energy !

[yanikto] 09/11/2016 17:23

But, as you didn't sell your stake, you haven't made any money yet!

Since you are investing in AIM shares, you don't have a lot of money to invest. I don't invest in any company with a market cap less than £ 100m now as I would only move the price against me.

[rougepierre] 09/11/2016 15:08

Yanik...

I have 70% of my trading portfolio in ATYM (at an average of 85.5), so does that count?

Meanwhile, the whole of the rest is in gold, silver and tungsten...

I wanted exposure to a range of small AIM goldies/silvers and the biggies (including dollar denominated)...

So...as well as HOC, MARL, FRES, KRS, I have MTR and GPM so that I am exposed and my risk is spread...

I believe MTR is massively undervalued, as are a range of quality small AIM miners, like ORM, SML, KRS, AAU, ALO...

Do you have anything positive to say, or are you the world expert on how to invest?

Oh and at one stage today my MTR investment was up 28%...

[billionaire1] 09/11/2016 09:51

reckon p j voted for trump?

[someuwin] 09/11/2016 09:39

Yesterday's rise continuing.