Wt Sugar Discussion Threads

[alexx] 23/1/2006 14:29

up another [EDIT] 12% today [ so far ], of course not exciting if you're not in

[alexx] 20/1/2006 16:10

rather neglected thread, not just metals that are going up

[energyi] 05/11/2004 14:41

It seems like most physical commodities have become more expensive: steel, timber, coal, oil, natural gas, orange juice and, of course, precious metals.

Only some commodities are more expensive. Did you know that cotton, lumber, soybeans, corn and wheat are down 30% to 50% from their 2003-2004 highs? No one mentions this fact. The media write only about the commodities that are up, such as oil. If this were a runaway inflation, everything would be up. If this were a runaway inflation, car prices would not have been going down for the past three years. If this were a runaway inflation, bonds would not be near their highs. If the housing boom had lots more to go, lumber would not have fallen so hard.

Oil is just a lagging beneficiary of the reflation bubble of the past two years. The bullish sentiment on oil is so extreme and widespread that I expect a major downside reversal and collapse in the price of oil any time now. In a few years, it will be a lot lower than it is today. People betting on higher oil prices today are the same ones who bet on higher stock prices in 2000. They love markets at tops; it's human nature.

Prechter:

[energyi] 27/9/2004 22:21

looking good

[energyi] 15/8/2004 08:25

Late Aug,
is normal SEASONAL LOW for Sugar

[energyi] 15/8/2004 01:00

pity= still moving higher

[indalo] 16/6/2004 18:20

Stopped out of the balance at 687.

I am also heavily short London Coffee (Sept') from an average of 813, stop now 801.

[indalo] 14/6/2004 14:48

covered half at 661 (July)

Stop moved to 690

[indalo] 14/6/2004 09:39

I am still short sugar having added more up at 720. I will close half on the open today.

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[energyi] 13/6/2004 21:17

Sugar ready to move higher again?



A chart from 's FREE week

[energyi] 03/6/2004 16:23

After yesterday's big drop...
on today's modest rally, I have exited July sugar, at around $7.08.

Sounds good, Indalo.
Is there any chance of a trial subscription

[energyi] 03/6/2004 11:28

5 waves up may have been seen:


Update:

[indalo] 03/6/2004 11:25

PS: I am also short a load of brent spreads (July/Aug) from an average of 44 (now 28) and believe these could go negative in coming days. We have just completed a throw-over of the megaphone top, all the newspapers are saying $50+ etc...IMO it is all adding up to an overcooked market with a serious shakeout in the making. Brent could see $33.

I am also holding Natural Gas puts

[indalo] 03/6/2004 11:22

Energyi - Nice trade!.....I was long from 668 and I reversed short SU from last night based on my momentum model.....and looking to add more at 720, with stops at 737.

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[energyi] 03/6/2004 11:16

I did miss the price pop the other day, thanks to the very short
hours for NY trading (2-5pm). But not entirely.

I managed to short London Sugar before 5:30pm.
And have closed that at a profit today.
Spreads on London Sugar seem to be tighter than for NY

[energyi] 03/6/2004 11:07

Some information, which i managed to get from a trader at finspreads...

Trading Hours:
London Sugar: (No.5): 8:45 - 5:30
N.Y. Sugar: (No.2)...: 2:00 - 5:00

Sources of quotes, news charts:
US based, free:
UK based, paid:

Fins does not offer options on Sugar (presently),
but I have asked them consider a one-off, where I would give them an order,
and then they would try to fill it in the market. The price i pay would
be different than what they fill at, and this would be their profit margin.

They may consider this if the trade is large enough

[energyi] 01/6/2004 16:08

Sold part at $7.00

[energyi] 18/5/2004 19:25

Long term charts for indices, commodities, crude oil, etc.



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ADDED MORE SUGAR, BELOW $6.40

[energyi] 10/5/2004 08:43

A bit early, I was. But small.
Plan to add more

[energyi] 06/5/2004 16:06

Starting to do some Buying here:
Sugar: Jul-6.70

[brainclamp] 11/8/2003 22:14

Who do you use to trade this Geo?

[geologic] 11/8/2003 22:01

SEASONAL LOW?
Normally Late August/ Early sept.

[geologic] 11/8/2003 21:58

Allen: Of the industrial commodities or metals, which one do you favor? Would that be lead, then?

Rogers: Well, if I tell you the best one, it will undoubtedly turn out to be the worst one -- you must know that. Zinc is terrific right now. Lead is good right now. Aluminum is good right now. Which would turn out to be the best? I don't know. But buy Sugar. Coffee.


There are plenty of things that you can buy that are going to do terrific. I'd rather buy Sugar or Coffee right now but Zinc is great. Aluminum. There are plenty of things you can buy. Soybean Oil is getting whacked at the moment but there are plenty of things to buy for the next 5-10 years.