Worthington Share Discussion Threads

[knigel] 30/3/2020 15:53

The people who left you stuck in two suspended shares? Point the finger in the right direction for once.

[jjw fan club] 30/3/2020 15:46

Your a fine one to speak, you piece of lowlife scum.

[jjw fan club] 30/3/2020 14:43

But I bet he has for trollavirus.

[richjp] 30/3/2020 13:27

I am surprised that Whet and/or Aidan have not been talking about some forthcoming investment in a company that will produce a miraculous cure for coronavirus.

[bbmsionlypostafter] 30/3/2020 12:27

...And building the multi billion Pound conglomerate, or is that on hold?

[spikeyj] 30/3/2020 12:14

it appears not. i guess they are still far too busy sorting
out those other two material deals, organising the (online?)
general meeting, and drafting the next shareholder update.

[bbmsionlypostafter] 30/3/2020 11:18

Haven't looked in here for a while so not up to speed on the state of play, has anyone been sued yet?

[vaneric1] 30/3/2020 09:12

If he has he'll be offering shares in it as a future winner.

[arthur_lame_stocks] 29/3/2020 22:32

Why, has Aidan got it?

[jackjackjack1] 29/3/2020 12:18

Karma it just might have already caught up with some with this virus

[knigel] 29/3/2020 11:04

David, not sure I have an answer ... I guess the reason we are in lockdown is that there is no vaccine.. I get a flu jab every year which offers some protection. People can catch flu from handling cash or coughing close to people so if we can learn from this and continue with more hand washing and social distancing when unwell esp during a flu outbreak, lives will be saved in future.

[vaneric1] 29/3/2020 10:59

Just to set the cat among the pigeons, the world is ,according to the greenies, grossly over populated, why are we even fighting it?

On the deaths, how many of those registered as dying from Covid-19 would have died quite soon anyway from their 'underlying ailments'?

[davidkip] 29/3/2020 08:49

Indeed flu does.

There’s a health economics argument that can be made (mortality caused by lockdown versus from covid (direct and via hitting the nhs)). And I’m sure those briefings have occurred - just not a topic for public consumption.

The issue though will finish by being political - how many excess deaths would the uk population find acceptable in order to avoid lockdown. The govt would have to take responsibility for that decision and outcome.

How many would you yourself be happy with, Nigel?

[knigel] 28/3/2020 20:26

We must remember flu kills thousands every year and doesn't get a mention on Sky News etc

[roydyor] 28/3/2020 18:56

Professor Ferguson has been known to get his figures dramatically wrong in the past and I am sure he has done so again. He claimed that mad cow disease could kill up to 150k people, so far 200 have died. His other paper on foot and mouth that led to the culling of six million cattle, sheep and pigs was criticised later by some as being not fit for purpose, including Dr Alex Donaldson, former head of the Pirbright Laboratory at the Institute of Animal Health. John Ioannidis, professor in disease prevention at Stanford University said "The Imperial College study has been done by a highly competent team of modellers. However some of the major assumptions and estimates that are built into the calculations seem to be substantially inflated."
To put the world into a recession that will end up killing a lot more people than the virus, based on the figures of Prof Ferguson, seems very irresponsible to me. Although I can see the sense in having temporary lock downs to slow the rate of infection, to stop the hospitals becoming swamped.
That is my last word on the matter because we are obviously not going to agree.

[davidkip] 28/3/2020 17:42

You're correct that the population infection rate is higher than reported. That's why they have been deep-diving into the outbreaks so as to measure the underlying IFR. The IFR is the fatality rate estimated for all people who are infected (critically, including mild and asymptomatic) - as opposed to the symptomatic case fatality rate (which is higher for obvious ascertainment bias reasons). It looks to be around 0.6%. That figure includes all the hypothesised "unknown untested and asymptomatic" cases.

If you don't like the DP data then here's the Ferguson analysis of the Wuhan outbreak.



See in particular Table 1

Going for 70% population infection at 0.6% mortality, either suddenly or gradually, remains would produce a horrific mortality event in the UK. Note the government are targeting 20,000 deaths as their "best case, successful outcome" scenario as a result of the social distancing etc.

[roydyor] 28/3/2020 15:49

Until there is more testing we will not know how many have actually been infected but I strongly believe that it is much higher than figures given for those tested that were taken to hospital, this would give a much smaller percentage of deaths in relation to those infected from present figures. The Diamond Princess was a special case due to the majority being in the upper age range. The answer is obviously a vaccine but to get the immunity required is a long way off and I strongly believe the majority of people getting a hopefully mild dose is our best bet at the moment. My son is a nurse by the way and lives with my wife and myself, who are in the at risk age range, so we are putting the theory to the test and all three of us are soldiering on helping patients and neighbours that are housebound. Only time will tell who is right.

[roydyor] 28/3/2020 09:17

There is a fine line between starting a lockdown too early, which will leave the country with not enough people carrying the antibodies, the herd principle, or leaving it too late and having your hospitals swamped. The other big argument against overdoing lockdowns is recession. A world recession would cause more damage in the long run to health and wealth than the virus.

[johnbri4] 28/3/2020 08:08

Lockdown here in S.A. and I mean lockdown. Streets patrolled by police and army and we only have 100 cases and 2 deaths. Only 20 more days or more if required.
Where are all the lowlifes?

[davidkip] 28/3/2020 07:57

Shouldn’t WHET be releasing a statement regarding how COVID-19 is impacting their operations?

[arthur_lame_stocks] 27/3/2020 20:07

I'm still going to work.