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[tini5] 17/1/2020 10:51

"It would be great if just one of the big 5 dropped as it would make the other 4 more probable, and VRS’ approach more credible to the market."


One already dropped.

[luckyorange] 17/1/2020 10:49

Not a trap mandatory, chart is oversold and a natural move, sellers have run out of ammunition and hopefully walk away happy, there will be traders taking their 10% of course.

[superg1] 17/1/2020 10:47

Chill

ITM was an odd one. In the Nano and other shares boom ITM as just completely oddly completely unloved by the market but they had a real business (that may have been the issue).

Now Nano and various others have fallen away, ITM has shone through. That's where your research and patience paid off, nice one.

[squire007] 17/1/2020 10:37

Club its 2020 have you realised yet .. lol

[superg1] 17/1/2020 10:29

I'll keep going it, don't worry this won't go on and on.

J1nx

Look at the patent header

LARGE SCALE PRODUCTION OF THINNED GRAPHITE, GRAPHENE, AND GRAPHITE-GRAPHENE COMPOSITES

There is your answer

Talga did the same, claiming a 7000 tonne facility but Warwick and co found out the amount that contained graphene was about 2.5%. The bulk is graphite.

There is a market for graphite there has been for decades.

[mandatory] 17/1/2020 10:26

Rise this morning is great but could well be another trap by MMs. A younger richer and rasher me would be buying.

It would be great if just one of the big 5 dropped as it would make the other 4 more probable, and VRS’ approach more credible to the market.

I’m fully committed and won’t buy any more till this happens.

Most of the more serious and committed detractors like SN are basically saying talk is cheap, so it would be good if one of the 5 put their money where their mouths (apparently) are, well before another fund raise is even considered, never mind prepared for.

[squire007] 17/1/2020 10:22

Get the flippers out, and sit back in the sun :-)

[phoenixs] 17/1/2020 10:18

superg1, well done for trying but there are some people, like climate change deniers,
who just do not want to open their eyes and ears to what science is telling them, the facts.

[superg1] 17/1/2020 10:13

J1nxed

You clearly don't get graphene.

There is paper re XG produce a M grade in a particular material where the claim is 18-24 layers. At the top end of the loading the original material strength dropped by 80%.

Multi-layer is detrimental in polymers where the polymer is stronger than the inter-layer bonds of the Gnps.

There are some impossibilities about claims too.

Good luck with your investment there.

[laginaneil] 17/1/2020 10:11

Super - don't talk to him ...lol

[superg1] 17/1/2020 10:06

J1nxed

You are now showing your lack of research

re your post

no one in this thread can claim is that one product is better than the other in terms of price/performance, why? Because the results are mostly secret and/or covered by NDAs.

Yes we can


Try going through the various science papers out there that show few layer is far better when it comes to strength.

As I have said many times, performance re strength falls off a cliff as layer increase hence to cut off pint for graphene is 10 layers. You must have the vast majority in that range, the more you have in the few layer range the better.

Then you have to take in purity, aspect and defect ratios.

The standards are here for a reason. Italian well documented by GEIC the UOM and the NPL. The market has been misled by producers sending what they call graphene and the end users then find it doesn't work.

Multi-layer will work for thermal and modulus gains but it can be detrimental to strength depending on the original strength of the product it goes into.


EG it could go into electrical wiring re heat dissipation but then you have the problem that it conducts electricity so you defeat the electrical insulating part. However if a hbn is viable for such products it's perfect as it's the most thermally conductive material and electrically insulating, thermal overload problem solved.

If you know electrics the further it travels and factors for materials it travels through then you have to up the mm2 because of the heat problem. So you can end up reducing the amount of copper needed if the insulator is thermally conductive.

[rakepat37] 17/1/2020 10:05

Looks link in auction ..

[rakepat37] 17/1/2020 10:01

Can't buy or sale anything ...

[squire007] 17/1/2020 09:59

See you in 2030 then :-)

[phoenixs] 17/1/2020 09:49

Yes Festario. You will be filled.

[nellyb] 17/1/2020 09:48

mr ricketts is not going anywhere soon. vrs will not get taken over for some time. don't give up the day job just yet.

[melf] 17/1/2020 09:45

Lovely post Chillpill.

[luckyorange] 17/1/2020 09:45

Cheap shares all taken up, they didn't hang around once that 130k buy was in sight.

[ashehzi] 17/1/2020 09:44

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities.


The term lends a scientific name and explanation to a problem that many people immediately recognize—that fools are blind to their own foolishness. As Charles Darwin wrote in his book The Descent of Man, "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge."

Incompetent people tend to:

++ Overestimate their own skill levels
++ Fail to recognize the genuine skill and expertise of other people
++ Fail to recognize their own mistakes and lack of skill

[squire007] 17/1/2020 09:35

Its going to get very busy soon enough Woody, this year is the one we all look back on ... :-)

[woodpeckers] 17/1/2020 09:33

Mornings like this make you realise what will happen to the share price when news hits...