Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[squire007] 19/2/2019 08:00

News coming too :/)

[shavian] 19/2/2019 07:59

Without being overly political, what a joyous happy morning this is. Not only is the sun shining but we have the chance to pick up yet more VRS at under a quid. And do I get a first whiff of the funeral pyre of Mr McDonnell’s vile ambitions for our country? Things Can Only Get Better, dum de dum de dum.. now where do I remember that song from?

[hattie1] 19/2/2019 07:58

Festario enjoy your holiday I seem to remember the share price usually rallies whilst you are away

[billwave] 19/2/2019 07:55

Good morning Maisto - I thank you very much for your response to at least one of my questions. I do apologise for some of my questions being repeated. Do you know that you are the only person that has provided a credible answer? Thanks again, I can now stop mentioning McLaren, well almost.

"I have been very busy at work today, thankfully. Just managed to look at the BB and the most recent post was from Billwave, referencing the lack of a follow-up order from McLaren. I wonder, with the massive investment you had in VRS Billwave, how many times did you attend Investor Days, AGMs etc? How many times did you meet Neill and the rest of the team? If you did meet Neill once or twice, it seems you didn’t ask him the question I asked him after the GEIC visit, which was why we didn’t have a re-order from McLaren. That order was for a special edition watch that McLaren produced. It was a one-off order. F1 teams are of course looking into graphene but Neill said very clearly they do not believe graphene will make any headway in F1 anytime soon, purely because of the immense scrutiny of testing and rules and regulations involved in the sport. VRS were never expecting a re-order. And here you are, going on and on about McLaren in your last I don't know how many posts. If only you had the question... Maybe you still would have sold your shares but then at least you would have a better idea what excuse to use for it."

You are correct, for one reason and another I have not attended the investor days, I tried to obtain a ticket for the GEIC visit but they sold out rather quickly so missed out. Which is why I pose some questions to this board to obtain answers from persons that may have been and can shed some light. Your learned response indicates to me that asking questions on here can be useful to share information that is otherwise not available.

Had I known McLaren's order was "purely" to incorporate into a one off watch and I was informed by Neill very clearly that they do not believe graphene would be incorporated in F1 anytime soon, do you feel that would be encouraging? So you are telling me that one of the only two sales of a few years ago was never going to be repeated anyway.

Thanks for the clarification.

Regards.

[festario] 19/2/2019 07:54

Scrutable, thanks for your kind reply.From that, I deduce that despite your posts carrying an air of authority and knowledgeable insight about them, you are in fact guessing and hoping like the rest of us.Many thanks again.

[festario] 19/2/2019 07:52

When flying out on holiday it's customary to have an early morning beer in Departures. But at £5.80 a beer, and an OBSCENE £10.99 for a glass of Prosecco, I think that's the last time I'll bother!

[ellissj] 19/2/2019 07:48

Per poddy, neill said vrs talking to ev firms from around the world. 'Scrambling' this article says -
Report is upon emerging tech. Interesting. Aimo. Best ellis

8h ago 09:48

"EU car industry fears new US tariffs"

"The US-China trade war optimism is being undermined by fears that Donald Trump could impose new tariffs on Europe’s car industry.

The US Department of Commerce has just filed a report, outlining whether the EU auto industry is a national security threat.

Trump now has 90 days to read this “section 232” report, and decide whether to impose levies of up to 25% on imported vehicles, or components.

The report is thought to focus on emerging technologies, at a time when the car industry is scrambling to develop better electric technologies as consumers shun diesel.

America’s Motor and Equipment Manufacturers Association has already urge the White House not to open up a new trade dispute, saying:

“These tariffs, if applied, could move the development and implementation of new automotive technologies offshore, leaving America behind.

“Not a single company in the domestic auto industry requested this investigation.”

[ellissj] 19/2/2019 07:40

Agree neill, Top man. As you chased over china jan17 with nigel in tow, his admiration at your energy and stamina spoke volumes to me, given his ex forces background. All free 'twitter' research; and you were at it all day yesterday defending the share against all comers. Doffing my hat yr direction here :) aimo. Best ellis

Neill Ricketts @neillricketts

"Not everyone has the stamina or the stomach to reach the top :)"

10:17 pm · 18 Feb 2019

[wuzy] 19/2/2019 07:40

The only down side to all of this fall is that many myself included have little cash left to buy at these prices,cheers

[ellissj] 19/2/2019 07:33

In the spring of 2017, the share price got to 25/26p before falling back to 13/14p in autumn on the back of lombard O and ACC directors selling out. Churned away then all summer. I didn't sell then and neither now - each to their own, we all make our own choices. As to the company, it just gets better imo, and only a month since a very good geic ID by all accounts and a promising chinese update. Aimo. Dyor. Best ellis

[ellissj] 19/2/2019 07:21

Agreed jointer, a good year ahead beckons. Nothing to suggest this is nothing more just churn in a wobbly general market with a forced seller in play, with the obvious effect that has upon share sentiment. Let's hope miton all done soon enough. Aimo. Glalth. Best ellis

[harrysol] 19/2/2019 07:19

When the first RNS comes, it's going to blow the monkees out of their trees. The collaborations are not with Micky mouse outfits, but world leading organisations. They are not going to want pick and mix bags worth of nanene, but tonnes. If Neill Rickets has a big smile on his face, then so do I. A RNS can come at any time of the day. It's coming.

[luckykids] 19/2/2019 07:14

Flatcoat . Your last paragraph made me laugh. Anybody trying to sell substandard graphene would probably need to set up a consortium to register new product on Reach Who do we know who has just set up a consortium. Agm FGR and others lol

[jointer13] 19/2/2019 07:09

flatcoat....that could be a company changer alone.

[flatcoat1] 19/2/2019 07:06

Let's also remember the 250Kg of polygrene was just to get the ISO on the polygrene. Aecom's multi-billion contract with network rail will require a hell of a lot more than that.

[jointer13] 19/2/2019 06:48

I cannot believe some of the posts on here.

the company has never been in a better place than now.

as ive said before the last year was about putting things in place.

do not let the scumbag detractors with there scaremongering tactics put you off.

this should be a brilliant year for genuine holders.

[flatcoat1] 19/2/2019 06:48

REACH really isn't a problem. I do work for a multinational company which has a department looking after REACH. Providing the chemical is already registered then the process takes a couple of weeks and costs only hundred euros or so.Looking on the European chemicals agency website, they have two chemicals registered. Graphene ( EC/list# 801-282-5) and graphite (#231-955-3). Any graphene manufacture who plans on meeting the expected ISO standard will be able to register for the graphene chemical. If you sell graphite > 350 nm then you can use graphite. Anyone trying to sell sub standard graphene which does not meet the planned ISO has a problem and would probably set up a consortium to register a new material...

[drattuts] 19/2/2019 06:05

Ref graphene loading in Polygrene in Spid's post above, I believe Neill indicated 4-6%. Whilst the end application might need 1% or less, Polygrene is a concentrate incorporated into the final polymer, so 200kg Polygrene = 8-12kg Nanene.

[spid81] 19/2/2019 03:54

Hi Squire,

Do you post on HC, if you do what is your user name? I will tag you into a post.

[squire007] 19/2/2019 02:48

Spid, also in Oz! Tas. VRS, may not sell an ounce abroad, what they may do is install all components direct, hardware,software, ip, methodology,training etc.. all under serious nda ipo protection etc. It will be made on site where needed anywhere in the world. Then on a larger scale the chinese koreans etc can make under licence as much as they like for a royalty lol ... I could expand but you stick to FGR mate ;-)

[squire007] 19/2/2019 02:41

Scrutable you are a star.... thx again for your notes and take on NR. Completely agree.

[spid81] 19/2/2019 00:26

Hi Rid,

If you believe I am a shorter that is fine with me, I have no financial interest in VRS. As I said Yesterday, I am going to provide a balanced discussion on this thread as many on here have invested their life savings or a significant % of their wealth, If I haven't made it clear, I am invested in First Graphene.

Timing of my posting, I live in Australia, 12 pm here is 1 am your time, or 6 pm = 7 am your time.

Aecom 200kg order, do you have any idea how little graphene is required in this order, by memory NR hinted on twitter it was 4% I would be extremely surprised if it used that much graphene, most applications only need 1% or less,if VRS were expecting significant graphene orders in the near future, they would have gained REACH approval by now. this is required to sell more than 1 t of Graphene in Europe / UK.

[maisto] 19/2/2019 00:06

I have been very busy at work today, thankfully. Just managed to look at the BB and the most recent post was from Billwave, referencing the lack of a follow-up order from McLaren. I wonder, with the massive investment you had in VRS Billwave, how many times did you attend Investor Days, AGMs etc? How many times did you meet Neill and the rest of the team? If you did meet Neill once or twice, it seems you didn’t ask him the question I asked him after the GEIC visit, which was why we didn’t have a re-order from McLaren. That order was for a special edition watch that McLaren produced. It was a one-off order. F1 teams are of course looking into graphene but Neill said very clearly they do not believe graphene will make any headway in F1 anytime soon, purely because of the immense scrutiny of testing and rules and regulations involved in the sport. VRS were never expecting a re-order. And here you are, going on and on about McLaren in your last I don't know how many posts. If only you had the question... Maybe you still would have sold your shares but then at least you would have a better idea what excuse to use for it.

Of course it is not pleasant seeing the share price where it is. But even though I am now almost 20% under water, I am not nervous. Partly because I do not need the money for the near future. Mostly though, it is because especially since the Chinese Aircraft Company and AECOM updates and since meeting Neill for the 3rd time and the rest of the team for the 1st time in GEIC, I truly believe Versarien will get there, sooner or later. And when I say later, I mean later this year. I don’t think we will need to wait until 2020 to see at least one big order, which will be enough to change all the charts, get rid of all the shorters and doubters, and reprice the value of the company.

What the share price does in the short term is only a very small part of this big story. As Neill said, ‘we are only 5 minutes into the game’.

Good night

Maisto