Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[ridicule] 19/2/2019 00:01

Oh Dear Spid. I was treating you as a genuine investor and not a shorter. I took your post first thing this morning, while suspiciously timed as genuine ( well not really).

At least I have well and truly flushed you out. “ The Chinese only said it was satisfactorily tested, that could mean anything”!! No it can’t, it means unequivocally it was satifactorily tested. So much so, 2 MOUs with VRS were signed and in China that is a much higher level of commitment than elsewhere.

True high quality Nanene is difficult to transport and store. That is why VRS has developed the Polygren option. No repeat orders!, Wake up!! Aecom 200kg plus and watch this space over the coming weeks with them.

Graphene Council is still ongoing but not material in commercial terms as I have already pointed out to you. Can you show me any evidence at all where Graphene Council are saying their tests of Nanene have failed?

Silly boy.

[spid81] 18/2/2019 23:32

Hi Ridicule,

What utter BS, none of these companies have independently said that "Nanene is best in class".

The Chinese test only stated it was "satisfactorily tested" That can mean anything.

As much as Sg1 claims that the smallest number of layers is what is important, the platelet size is much more important, the thinner and wider platelets are should add the most value......there is one proviso. You have to be able to mix and disperse the platelets.

Can you please explain why VRS are yet to have its graphene process Verified as a Graphene Producer by the Graphene Council?

VRS made a big song and dance about it 7 months ago in the RNS. It is going to be extremely embarrassing if DirectaPlus or any other Graphene company replaces VRS as the first company to complete "verified Graphene Producer programme" RNS comments below

although you claim that all of these companies has successfully tested Nanene / VRS Graphene (considered it world leading), it has not resulted in any repeat sales, don't you find that odd?

according to your own material scientist Nanene restacks very quickly, that is why it only has a surface area of 45m2 per gram, rather than the 500m2 of many of VRS competitors who offer FLG. What this means, if you don't use it quickly, it restacks into graphite, if these companies are all testing Nanene they will need a constant supply, Why are their minimal sales and no RNS's, we all know how much NR loves Twitter, don't you find it odd that he isn't Tweeting samples being resent to the collaboration partners?

20th July VRS RNS

"The Company is pleased to announce that it has been selected to be The Graphene Council's launch client for their 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme, which will independently verify that the Company's Nanene graphene nano platelets meet their demanding standards."

Commenting, Terrance Barkan, Executive Director, The Graphene Council, said: "We are delighted that Versarien will be our inaugural client undertaking verification to our demanding standards. The 'Graphene Council Verified Graphene Producer' programme is the only independent in-person inspection regime for graphene. As the largest and most advanced community for graphene professionals, the mission of The Graphene Council is to help bring transparency and confidence to the rapidly developing graphene industry."

Neill Ricketts Comments "I am also very pleased that The Graphene Council has selected Versarien to be the launch client of its 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme. Accreditation from The Graphene Council will provide our customers with the assurance that Versarien's graphene is of the highest quality and meets relevant standards."

[ridicule] 18/2/2019 23:00

Just returned from a great day out in Lanzarote feeling very good about life. I penned a post over a leisurely lunch earlier today to try and bring a VRS perspective to colleagues on this Board that was totally at variance to CS. I note that my reference to 17 months has been picked up by one or two as arbitrary. Just to clarify, my point of reference was a Scottish touring holiday in September 2017 and each lunch stop my wife and I had animated debates whether we bought more VRS at 15p or should we wait until it dropped a bit. It, therefore, seemed a good point of reference for me to pick because it was the seminal point in the VRS story for me personally. Having selected 17 months looking back, it seemed symmetrical to posit where the Company could be in 17 months looking forward.

There is perhaps an insight into how PIs think when under some understandable stress that the single point of a 17 month timescale should be alighted upon and not the many more nuanced points I was trying to make.

[ridicule] 18/2/2019 22:34

Spid81 Your Post 60176. The Graphene Council is not a trading commercial company so will not bring commercial growth to VRS. Fortunately, the the Chinese, Aecom, McClaren, the CPI have all independently verified Nanene as best of class. This has been recognised in the USA which is why Versarien have been elected to the Graphene Council. Add to this that 2 VRS employees are intimately involved in writing the ISO then I am sure you will be pleased to be reassured that all is well when it comes to the outstanding quality of VRS Graphene based products.

VRS are on the cusp of great things and I am sure you will feel greatly uplifted by this as a close follower of VRS fortunes.

[davemac3] 18/2/2019 22:33

I am surprised that many on here who invested at 145p via primary bid and above are so happy with their investment

[riskybusiness1] 18/2/2019 22:11

The smaller orders are for trial purposes. The larger the company & opportunity the longer it will take all round. That's just the way it works. The collaborations are these companies having a look & test to see how they could benefit from the technology. McLaren are a great example of my point, they are massive & any fundamental change to the materials of their products will take time. Two years is small amount of time deciding on such a drastic change. Repeat orders should come but they're still currently going through the process. There are so many deals the company has very diversified risk.You highlight my exact point in how people expect things to happen quickly because it's great. Realistically it does not happen like that which a revolutionary technology. An example of this would be the adoption of the digital camera from the Kodak. It didn't happen immediately because it's clearly better, it takes time for industry to adopt the next big thing.

[festario] 18/2/2019 22:07

Meganxmas, you repeatedly mention that you see agendas and conspiracies all over this board.I see none whatsoever, from anyone.Can't people just be disillusioned?No one is trying to hoodwink you, con you, scam you or harm you in any way. There's simply a few people who believe something different to what you believe.

[ellissj] 18/2/2019 21:51

I see plenty trying to pigeon hole the 4th industrial revolution here. I think we might look back and realise it had a life of it's own. And that you can't second guess this share. Given where we are, if there's a rabbit to pull out of the hat, you can be sure the team are working harder than ever to do it. Hoping this is the bottom. We'll see. Aimo. Best ellis

[spid81] 18/2/2019 21:45

Evening Diversification,

"Spid, isn’t that equivalent to FGR’s weekly operational loss?"

Not really, FGR's cash burn is higher that VRS, $7mil AUD loss for 2018,
Majority of that was in Research and Development (IP development) of $3.4mil by memory, I would list all of projects although I don't think many will care.
Some small costs were also associated with their mining projects.


Now that NR has tweeted that the new production facility is up and running, I really hope he has the Graphene Council already booked in to get the new facility tested as per the July 2018 RNS,How long do you think it will take the Graphene Council to independently verify VRS process?

"Graphene Council Verified Graphene Producer Programme"

"The Company is pleased to announce that it has been selected to be The Graphene Council's launch client for their 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme, which will independently verify that the Company's Nanene graphene nano platelets meet their demanding standards."

[superg1] 18/2/2019 21:36

Scrut

Just to clarify as I did ask.

The Aecom tests are for the ISO. The actual tests for performance which fit what Aecom want were done and dusted a while ago.

Details of the product have been in video talked about by Aecom staff.

[tini5] 18/2/2019 21:36

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Spid, isn’t that equivalent to FGR’s weekly operational loss?


PMSL - just spat out my tea.

[superg1] 18/2/2019 21:32

Tim ignore another multi avatar guy just registered.

[harrysol] 18/2/2019 21:31

Hermann - your just some rebadged shorter whose returned to have another pop at VRS. You don't know anything at all. You make it up as you go along. You can call yourself Lord Lucan for all I care. I follow facts not your fiction.

[ripley94] 18/2/2019 21:29

That is an amazing story Scrutable how did you make contact with neill ?

[tim3416] 18/2/2019 21:25

Phil, what actually does it matter to you what the CEO does? Apart from the fact you don’t like it...

[hermanngoring] 18/2/2019 21:22

I went short at 190p and 180p

Listen to me boyo.

The shares are worth no more than 25p