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[ellissj] 10/1/2019 11:11

MJ10, of course there will be some traders buying, and then they will sell higher up, if they have get their entry and exit prices right - it's what they do. Which why, along with general selling and buying, nothing goes up or down in a straight line. Best ellis

[superg1] 10/1/2019 11:08

Also due to the recent supply it's hard to judge when to buy, when the stock runs out it jumps and many kick themselves for missing the lower prices.

So they hope some traders start selling which then allows them to get some as it drops with the hope that the supply has gone.

[diversification] 10/1/2019 11:02

Roddie.

No offence intended but that is such a poor contribution to a question imo.

You wouldn’t read this board on a daily basis if you were not interested in the day to day price movements.

Some continue to accumulate which means their average purchase price is increasing or decreasing. Day to day movements in the price remain of importance which is why it is discussed.

It depends on your commintment and investment strategy. I continue to accumalate, from 78p to 190p and all the way back down again, I am and intend to be a LTH.

Please see it from others perspective as well as your own.

[davemac3] 10/1/2019 11:02

when the market is down this goes up and vice versa

[superg1] 10/1/2019 11:02

They would take 200k because the demand is there and they are running low on stock.

Nowt to do with news

[phoenixs] 10/1/2019 10:58

diversification, I don't care much for dmas,charts etc but I would not disagree with the general gist of what you have just written.

[mj10] 10/1/2019 10:58

roddiemac
I didn't say it did I was just challenging the statement.
like a lot on here they make a lot of assumptions eg ..last night some were predictins a rns today because the mms would take 200k before the close

[foolishben] 10/1/2019 10:55

NY Boy - Where in SE Asia are you out of interest? I trust you're having a good time?

[roddiemac2] 10/1/2019 10:51

MJJ10

It does not matter a jot , if you believe there is long term potential.

[ny boy] 10/1/2019 10:50

I guess when the seller has finished off loading these will rocket to at least 180p, will try and forget about them and stay patient, right pre dinner drinks time here in Asia, will check in either before the close or tomorrow on progress

[diversification] 10/1/2019 10:50

For what it is worth, the way I see it:

When the seller was off during the Christmas break the shareprice broke resistance and tested the 100dma.

The seller returned with a significant dump of stock which was indicative of a trader who had reached the end of their holding/position and didn’t really care much for what happened next as long as they could exit.

Returning and testing the 200dma which held, we now bounce and if SG has his numbers right which I believe he has, then we now retest the 100dma. Break that and the fun begins just in time for a catalogue of news.

[mj10] 10/1/2019 10:41

ellis
you say new buyers in but are they buyers or traders that will sell as soon as we get to 1.30p

[graphenejen] 10/1/2019 10:37

Super/dg: I'm not a subscriber but I was able to read the full article from the link. Jen

[superg1] 10/1/2019 10:30

dg
Subscription required.

[diversification] 10/1/2019 10:29

Well isn’t today a happier day lol

[bootie64] 10/1/2019 10:10

For those getting impatient re progress/orders etc, a reminder below of the most popular post on this thread by Scrutable from less than a month ago.
Also posting it up for anyone new to this thread that may have missed it.

SCRUTABLE19 Dec '18 - 11:07 - 54019 of 56093
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I have just had the ex traordinary experience, because of my age, of an extended one-to-one with NR. I absolutely have to share it with fellow investors. I was left feeling that I had spent a preciously short time with a great visionary, at the same time unusually astute business and marketing manager/leader who will influence, even enable, major industrial change throughout the industrial world, and that the course is now set for exponential growth and dominance by Versarien of a step change in the production of a very large number of industries.

NR has often been quoted from his tweets as saying " you ain't seen nothing yet" and I now believe that what might come across secondhand as bombast and unrealistic optimism, is the truth beyond normal experience, which is why most of VRS announcements increase scepticicism with the average investor. The situation is analogous to that pertaining 10 years ago to self driving cars and today towards Elon Musk's courageous Tesla project and his outside-the-box efforts now extending to hyperloop travel. It all seems so plausible and just too good to be true.

Only it IS true.

This morning's RNS of a further mind- blowing collaboration MOU with a Chinese state owned aerospace company, will surprise no VRS shareholders and would on its own have been sufficient to underpin the future of VRS. As usual it has cut no ice with the City, who have demonstrqated time after time in their collective ignorance of science that they think that the UK can live on financial engineering, maniipulation and hot air, rather than from producing global industrial leaders from innovation and seriously heavy investment in infrastructure.

The current Government understands this with its following just in time of the EU lead in sprinkling funds effectively over the medical and engineering science reasearch departments of our world leading universities and science parks. Innovation is now being effectively seeded all over the UK.

VRS seems to be succeeding miraculously in laying the basis for an industrial revolution that could save this country. Its project is more desperately relevant than ever to mitigate the self harm in train from the UK political process.

Neill Ricketts began his life's monument traditionally, in a garage, and for five years grew the roots of a viable business in the narrow niche of heat transfer via copper foam. That was I think the most difficult part, The necessary frugal habits allowed him the growth without relying on the potential treachery of banks and greedy controlling financial partners. He is therefore unusually free from interference in forming policy. Current shareholders benefit hugely from the ensuing increase in their share of the assets, and freedom from the fear of takeover by an unwelcome approach.

IMO he demonstrated his ability to makea step changes in the profitability of the VRS business model with the first one, the RNS launching Polygrene. The incorporation of the nanene content into the base plastic not only adds value to each transaction, but it avoids the damaging risk of having to release and licence the knowledge of how to maximise the effect of the mix, and therefore preserves the value of the company's IP. This is far better than just selling the nanene and enabling clients to build their own proprietary know-how. NR intends to exploit this idea further down the added value chain to selling formed parts of the actual product improved by the inclusion of nanene. There are also secrets in the nanene production process which go far beyond the provision of a patented machine and quelled my fears of loss of IP from a very acquisitive and inquisitive range of Chinese giant corporations.

I have long felt that the consequence of the efforts of management experimentation, and thinking " outside the box" over the last ten years - and 18 months of initiating "Co-operations"with around 50 major corporations (possibly hundreds of small ones too) is in some ways analagous to successful farming.

This for the understandable sceptics who can "see" nothing happening:

The ideal land has been found, prepared, tilled, fertilised, and seeded.
A crop is predictable but unquantifiable in the short term but is just beginning to sprout. .Just one or two shoots are visible

Nonne can predict the size of thr crop but rest assured it is absolutely colossal.

[rafboy] 10/1/2019 09:44

May be a good time to top up. Looks like we may move north on buying today.

[ellissj] 10/1/2019 09:33

Miton, like many, have been rebalancing their portfolio following revisions in share valuations, especially since the autumn. We know they took a big paper hit on one of their investments unfortunately. I'm open minded as to whether they sell out of vrs completely, or keep a smaller parcel. Either way, churn now means new buyers in. Neill and co working hard as ever. Aimo. Best ellis

[dgduncan] 10/1/2019 09:31

Investors Chronicle gave quite a good explanation of market makers last November. I particularly liked the end summary.

[alchemy] 10/1/2019 09:18

Milton goes.Donne next.Everything done so far has resulted in 123p.Imbedded in what's done the possibility of huge revenue flows, when they're more visible, we move on and upwards once more.