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[diversification] 10/1/2019 10:29

Well isn’t today a happier day lol

[bootie64] 10/1/2019 10:10

For those getting impatient re progress/orders etc, a reminder below of the most popular post on this thread by Scrutable from less than a month ago.
Also posting it up for anyone new to this thread that may have missed it.

SCRUTABLE19 Dec '18 - 11:07 - 54019 of 56093
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I have just had the ex traordinary experience, because of my age, of an extended one-to-one with NR. I absolutely have to share it with fellow investors. I was left feeling that I had spent a preciously short time with a great visionary, at the same time unusually astute business and marketing manager/leader who will influence, even enable, major industrial change throughout the industrial world, and that the course is now set for exponential growth and dominance by Versarien of a step change in the production of a very large number of industries.

NR has often been quoted from his tweets as saying " you ain't seen nothing yet" and I now believe that what might come across secondhand as bombast and unrealistic optimism, is the truth beyond normal experience, which is why most of VRS announcements increase scepticicism with the average investor. The situation is analogous to that pertaining 10 years ago to self driving cars and today towards Elon Musk's courageous Tesla project and his outside-the-box efforts now extending to hyperloop travel. It all seems so plausible and just too good to be true.

Only it IS true.

This morning's RNS of a further mind- blowing collaboration MOU with a Chinese state owned aerospace company, will surprise no VRS shareholders and would on its own have been sufficient to underpin the future of VRS. As usual it has cut no ice with the City, who have demonstrqated time after time in their collective ignorance of science that they think that the UK can live on financial engineering, maniipulation and hot air, rather than from producing global industrial leaders from innovation and seriously heavy investment in infrastructure.

The current Government understands this with its following just in time of the EU lead in sprinkling funds effectively over the medical and engineering science reasearch departments of our world leading universities and science parks. Innovation is now being effectively seeded all over the UK.

VRS seems to be succeeding miraculously in laying the basis for an industrial revolution that could save this country. Its project is more desperately relevant than ever to mitigate the self harm in train from the UK political process.

Neill Ricketts began his life's monument traditionally, in a garage, and for five years grew the roots of a viable business in the narrow niche of heat transfer via copper foam. That was I think the most difficult part, The necessary frugal habits allowed him the growth without relying on the potential treachery of banks and greedy controlling financial partners. He is therefore unusually free from interference in forming policy. Current shareholders benefit hugely from the ensuing increase in their share of the assets, and freedom from the fear of takeover by an unwelcome approach.

IMO he demonstrated his ability to makea step changes in the profitability of the VRS business model with the first one, the RNS launching Polygrene. The incorporation of the nanene content into the base plastic not only adds value to each transaction, but it avoids the damaging risk of having to release and licence the knowledge of how to maximise the effect of the mix, and therefore preserves the value of the company's IP. This is far better than just selling the nanene and enabling clients to build their own proprietary know-how. NR intends to exploit this idea further down the added value chain to selling formed parts of the actual product improved by the inclusion of nanene. There are also secrets in the nanene production process which go far beyond the provision of a patented machine and quelled my fears of loss of IP from a very acquisitive and inquisitive range of Chinese giant corporations.

I have long felt that the consequence of the efforts of management experimentation, and thinking " outside the box" over the last ten years - and 18 months of initiating "Co-operations"with around 50 major corporations (possibly hundreds of small ones too) is in some ways analagous to successful farming.

This for the understandable sceptics who can "see" nothing happening:

The ideal land has been found, prepared, tilled, fertilised, and seeded.
A crop is predictable but unquantifiable in the short term but is just beginning to sprout. .Just one or two shoots are visible

Nonne can predict the size of thr crop but rest assured it is absolutely colossal.

[rafboy] 10/1/2019 09:44

May be a good time to top up. Looks like we may move north on buying today.

[ellissj] 10/1/2019 09:33

Miton, like many, have been rebalancing their portfolio following revisions in share valuations, especially since the autumn. We know they took a big paper hit on one of their investments unfortunately. I'm open minded as to whether they sell out of vrs completely, or keep a smaller parcel. Either way, churn now means new buyers in. Neill and co working hard as ever. Aimo. Best ellis

[dgduncan] 10/1/2019 09:31

Investors Chronicle gave quite a good explanation of market makers last November. I particularly liked the end summary.

[alchemy] 10/1/2019 09:18

Milton goes.Donne next.Everything done so far has resulted in 123p.Imbedded in what's done the possibility of huge revenue flows, when they're more visible, we move on and upwards once more.

[ellissj] 10/1/2019 09:17

Wonder if 2D materials gets a mention here now geic opened? Vrs due out to japan in january ! Best ellis

"...Meanwhile, May will seek to underline international support for her stance, as she welcomes the Japanese prime minister, Shinzō Abe, to Britain. The pair will announce a series of trade and cultural collaborations..."

[1teepee] 10/1/2019 09:13

I think I would just just skip to the destination and have fun there

[flatcoat1] 10/1/2019 09:13

They are not all sells. My top up at 8:30 is down as a sell so I would say they are mostly buys

[rafboy] 10/1/2019 09:07

We just need something to start the buying.

[woodpeckers] 10/1/2019 08:59

Just pondering and it crossed my mind that presuming we/superg are right about Miton, the MMs will be aware that they (Miton) have very few left and will also have considered what may soon happen.
Presumably then, they will realise that they may soon be short of stock so will want to start accumulating prior to that happening. Appreciate, however, that they don't tend to hold too much.

[cheek212] 10/1/2019 08:52

Are these all sells this morning or just the MMs playing games with the midprice? Not a huge amount of volume yet so hard to tell if any big sells featuring today. Fingers crossed about Miton finished.

[rafboy] 10/1/2019 08:48

We will get there, it just doesn’t happen as quickly as some people think. That said what great progress has been made by VRS in bringing graphene to the attention of countries like China and the US.

[squire007] 10/1/2019 08:46

More for me again :-)

[squire007] 10/1/2019 08:45

Pmsl again numpty

[ellissj] 10/1/2019 08:38

Big post smalls :-) good luck to you and your family. Best ellis

[donkyman] 10/1/2019 08:35

Well said Smallfry. I can not believe how bad some of these boards get!!!

[luckyorange] 10/1/2019 08:31

Money , religion, politics, all emotive subjects smallfry, in for as you have explained above but above all honesty of the CEO/company,(hard to find on AIM) everything else follows.

[p@] 10/1/2019 08:30

I hope Neil is not watching this BB, because i would not like breaking my back for some of these ungrateful selfish greedy lazy shareholders!

[smallfry1] 10/1/2019 08:24

Why did I invest?

The simple answer is I want to make money.
I want my money to make me more than it would say in a high street bank.
I was thinking if I can double my money in five to ten years that would be amazing so that is why I am an investor
I am sure that I and my reasons for investing are not that different from other investors. Of course target returns that some people seek may dither but we are all here for the same thing, money.
Why did I choose Versarien?
Because I wanted to be a part of something that is not only home grown but something with the potential to change all of our lives.
I want to tell my grandchildren that I saw the potential of this company and was extremely proud to back it with my money.
I can not believe that many others on this board do not feel the same way.
So assuming that that is the case why is there all this name calling etc. We are all riding the same train so let’s all sit back and enjoy the journey. Of course there will be delays along the way but
When the delays happen just remember when we pass the next town there may something wonderful to take in.
Enjoy the journey for sometimes it’s the best part of the story.