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[cheek212] 24/11/2018 11:55

$100 per gram? I'll have 3tonnes worth please my good man!

[loglorry1] 24/11/2018 11:19

Didn't Antonio Castro Neto, of the National University of Singapore, conclude that the best Graphene he tested was from Elcora Corp?



They seem to be going bust but they do say this....

"According with a recent research done at the Centre for Advanced 2D Materials (CA2DM) at the National University of Singapore (NUS), many graphene production companies generated a thin graphite powder with 2-10% of graphene content. The same study showed Elcora Advanced Materials has generated a new production process with 55% of graphene content. Elcora personnel have also developed a unique low cost effective process to make quality graphene from natural graphite, and the process is commercially scalable."

[axotyl] 24/11/2018 10:31

How carbon copycats risk denting faith in graphene - Times, 24nov18

The advantage of graphene is that it is a near-miraculous form of carbon that is super-strong, super-conductive and set to revolutionise the world. The disadvantage is that without highly specialist equipment it’s impossible to distinguish graphene from a less miraculous form of carbon: the kind you put in a pencil.

Researchers have called for a system of validation after a study into 60 commercial suppliers found that “pretty much nobody is producing graphene in the world right now”. Instead, they were simply providing crushed graphite.

“What’s clear is it’s all graphite,” Antonio Castro Neto, of the National University of Singapore, said. His study, in the journal Advanced Materials, could not establish whether this was deliberate deception but what he could be sure of was that people were making a lot of money from a non-existent product. “1kg of graphite costs $1. People claiming to sell 1g of graphene can get $100.”

Graphene, discovered in Britain in 2004, is a lattice of carbon an atom thick, a structure that could revolutionise industries such as materials science and electronics. Most work is at the research stage, with academic institutions making their own supply. “People always ask me why graphene is not yet in applications,” Professor Castro Neto said. “There are no applications for graphene in the market because there is no graphene in the market.”

Alexander Tzalenchuk, of the National Physical Laboratory in west London, works with the Graphene Flagship, a €1 billion EU research initiative based in Cambridge whose members can send him samples for verification. He and his colleagues ultimately want to set up a system to provide an industry standard. Otherwise, he said, the revolution will stall before it has begun.

“Manufacturers of devices are very interested in using this fabulous material which will solve all their problems,” he said. “But if they go to suppliers and try to incorporate graphene into their products, and it doesn’t give the advertised performance, people start to say, ‘Oh, well this is snake oil’.”

[shavian] 24/11/2018 09:33

Just added another comment to that article. Serious posts only please!

[grabster] 24/11/2018 08:36

Any Times reader who uses Google News to commence their research into Versarien will see plenty of nice headlines to view over the weekend:



(if that doesn't work on your device, go to the main Google News page and enter Versarien in searchbox)

[woodpeckers] 24/11/2018 08:06

Thanks Ayl. Direct link :


Good reply there from Jan on that article. For those who can't see the replies (I think you can see all the article without subscribing).

"Chinese and American customers have been knocking on the door of one particular UK company whose graphene (trademarked Nanene) does meet the highest standard. Versarien. The UK government has seconded two of its most senior officials - Peter Jay and Matt Walker - to the company fulltime, to speed up fulfilment of deals with several global customers who are in close collaboration with Versarien. Check out the company's newsflow over the past year for confirmation. Manchester University (the birthplace of graphene) own a share of the company - as does cambridge University."

[laginaneil] 24/11/2018 07:59

Morning folks,
I see this company into 'glue', wonder if Nanene would improve it more than what they use now?
See:

[matheus7777] 24/11/2018 07:50

Someone's already left a comment linking in VRS. More exposure for mainstream media

[ayl30] 24/11/2018 07:27

Carbon copycats denting faith in graphene https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-carbon-copycats-risk-denting-faith-in-graphene-mpv0h3h99?shareToken=3d7cb2ac78cb7136d7a84e34c54eed62

[mikebrenner] 24/11/2018 01:29

True Fest - that was bloody funny ... what a difference a year makes! Found even in the last 6 weeks a number of my buys have had to be split into 2 trades to match the volume on the market ... why limit orders important! It's also why when the large material sales orders appear that attract new buyers of BRS shares that tight supply and low insti holdings will help us going upwards. As Take That say "have a little patience!"

[festario] 23/11/2018 22:23

Mike Brenner, there was a time, only one short year ago, that I sold over 600k VRS shares by accident, in one press of a button.... and was able to buy them all back in one transaction the next morning!How times and limits have changed!

[superg1] 23/11/2018 22:18

Rock

Personally I think he will be buried in holder posts near term.
Either paid by shak or mentally ill.

[luckyorange] 23/11/2018 21:37

The 'team' are focussing on FRR, they will be back when the interims are out unless something distracts them between now and then.

[ellissj] 23/11/2018 21:09

Easy this one. Better EV battery thermal management? Short term - +nanene EV battery trays ! Imo. Best ellis.

"Ahead of speaking at International EV Batteries 2018, we caught up with Billy Wu, Senior Lecturer in the Dyson School of Design Engineering, Imperial College London. Billy explained his role and involvement in the development of EV/HEV battery technologies, the critical challenges, five year vision and what he is looking forward to at the event.

Q: Could you briefly explain your current role and involvement in batteries for electric and hybrid vehicles?

Billy Wu (BW): In my role as a Senior Lecturer in the Dyson School of Design Engineering at Imperial College London, I lead a team of PhD and post-doctoral researchers. Our Electrochemical Science and Engineering group focuses at the interface between fundamental science and engineering application for energy storage devices. From a fundamental research perspective, we are involved in projects such as multi-scale modelling to understand rate limiting processes in lithium-ion batteries and also to better predict battery lifetime. From an engineering perspective, we work closely with industry to investigate how the thermal management of lithium-ion battery packs affects their performance and lifetime."

[woodpeckers] 23/11/2018 20:47

mike, thank you, again really helpful tips. :-)

[diversification] 23/11/2018 20:46

Watching ‘gold rush’ tonight and the transmission has broken on a bulldozer. Told the wife that graphene would of prevented that from happening.

The down time costs them thousands, obsessed.

[ellissj] 23/11/2018 20:46

Promising ! Be better with world leading 2D materials i imagine ? Imo. Best ellis

"Carbon fibre could turn car bodies into batteries."

18 Oct 2018

"Researchers in Sweden have demonstrated that carbon fibres can be used as battery electrodes, enabling them to store energy directly.

This could open up new opportunities for structural batteries, where energy storage is integrated into the body of a vehicle, allowing for significant weight reductions in electric cars or aircraft. 

"A car body would then be not simply a load-bearing element, but also act as a battery," explains Leif Asp, a professor of material and computational mechanics at Chalmers University of Technology, which carried out the work. “It will also be possible to use the carbon fibre for other purposes such as harvesting kinetic energy, for sensors or for conductors of both energy and data. If all these functions were part of a car or aircraft body, this could reduce the weight by up to 50%.”

[ellissj] 23/11/2018 20:36

Wonder if world leading 2D products could help ? :) imo. Best ellis

"How 'miniature suns' could provide cheap, clean energy"

By Emma Woollacott
Technology of Business reporter

16 November 2018

"....A major challenge is how to build a structure strong enough to contain the plasma - the very high-temperature nuclear soup in which the fusion reactions take place - under the huge pressures required.

Exhaust systems will "have to withstand levels of heat and power akin to those experienced by a spaceship re-entering orbit," says Prof Ian Chapman, chief executive of the UK Atomic Energy Authority (UKAEA)..."

[woodpeckers] 23/11/2018 19:54

Cheers WUZY. :-)