Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[bootie64] 08/11/2018 18:54

Re buys and sells, throw into the mix that the chart shows an historic trading range 118-137

[laginaneil] 08/11/2018 18:53

vrs1,
Good evening to you. Even the thought of reading logwhatsits posts is out for me. Don't read them, they are bad for your health.
You WILL be tempted to reply, filter them or close your eye's.

Maybe RNS /interims tomorrow ! Get a good nights sleep see you at 7 a.m. sharp.

[clint fleecewood] 08/11/2018 18:49

I doubt it will be Darwin as their MO is to pre sell at higher prices when they know they are shortly getting a chunk of shares at a lower one. In fact I doubt if it is anyone that loaded up on the recent fund raise as we haven't got back to 145 yet! It'll be someone who got plenty at 22p/60p etc IMO.

[magic beans] 08/11/2018 18:48

Vrs1. "I'll keep buying." Is the correct answer. We are still in the "nobody has heard of graphene or vrs" phase. Anyone who believes in the potential of graphene or in Neill or in the DIT or in science/logic is going to follow you eventually.

[lovat scout] 08/11/2018 18:46

Ridicule - Baldrick springs to mind!

[ridicule] 08/11/2018 18:42

Tungshu senior execs fly halfway round the world to sign an MOU with VRS to exploit Nanene, winner of all 4 CPI invitation to tenders, and Graphinks. Loggie on the other hand ignores all that as just another collaboration, but bigs up a mining bucket liner using graphite in Australia as one of our biggest threats. You could not write a book about it with any semblence of credibility.

He is also now setting himself up as market maker in the price per KG of Graphene, suggesting Nanene could only command giveaway prices without being privvy to the commercial VRS model!!

He also thinks that the VRS primary goal is to sell Nanene as a commodity without any ambition to climb the ascending rungs on the value-added enterprise ladder to manufacture or receive royalties on the myriad of high value-added products that "Nanene inside" will empower.
It is not so much the breathtaking nonsense that he spouts, it is the fact he publishes in the public domain like an out of work Court Jester.

[vrs1] 08/11/2018 18:27

I'm not sure if this is in fact shorting or whether it is nervous Nellie's selling with the recent gains. Either way, the fact is that price went down. For me, this is a journey that I will not jump off. Too much going on. Too much positivity coming out of VRS. The quality of the collaborations is too high. We have saboteurs on this forum. No matter what or how positive the news, they twist and turn into something toxic. Like cancer. I mentioned today that Tungshu wanted nanene and had come to VRS. Piglorry came back immediately with, yeah, but, Tungshu already have graphene. True, but if it was that good and they have a supply, then why come to VRS? Simple - nanene is the best and they know that and they want nanene. Tunghsu are number four in the world. They went to be number one. No doubt loghillbilly will say, no they want to be number three and only took a sample from VRS. See, easy to twist reality. Back to basics - foldable phones. Foldable tablets. Imagine, a 20 inch tablet. 30 inch tablet! All with no extra weight. Aecom want to make building panels with built in circuitry/sensors. Electric vehicles. Batteries. The future is electric. Nanene will play a big role/part in that. I won't sell. I'll keep buying. I still say £2.00 within weeks.

[loglorry1] 08/11/2018 18:27

@pshevlin you should know the rule by now. If VRS is down it's due to general market malaise if it's up it's because VRS is fantastic and nothing to do with the general market.

Also if it's down it's because shorters are evil or market makers are dishonest but if up it's because investors are clever and have backed a winner.

Pretty simple really ;-)

[pshevlin] 08/11/2018 18:18

A couple of my stocks were marked down just before the bell so I think it was a general market thing not VRS related.

[alchemy] 08/11/2018 18:10

I can tell

[cheek212] 08/11/2018 18:10

What is interesting is this shorting practice wasn't really happening prior to the placing as there seemed to be very few IIs lending out. Since the placing we have seen more shorting and today's price action with large amounts of shares being dumped also looks reminiscent of shorting, so is it possible that our new cornerstone investor or one of the IIs who helped fund the placing are lending out their shares? Possibly lending out and buying back cheaper as seen on IQE (T Rowe). Clearly however it is remains below the 3% threshold for reporting unless it's the other founder chap who sold before without reporting until late. I forget his name!

[lovat scout] 08/11/2018 18:03

Cheek - it’s possible that motley crew put money into the fund raise but I suspect not. If they did it would only be flipping cash.

[club sandwich] 08/11/2018 17:56

It's all Greek to me...

[alchemy] 08/11/2018 17:55

A chacun ses gouts

[chumbo1] 08/11/2018 17:54

What happened at close of play then? Me confused

[woodpeckers] 08/11/2018 17:52

magic beans - "(I'm posting from the pub)" - can I ask, would that be The Set?

[cheek212] 08/11/2018 17:51

Do you think that the owners of Primary Bid are the key institutional funders that provide the funding? Just looked them up on Companies House and see they are owned by Darwin strategic, Arden Partners, Shore Capital and Finncap. I don't know much about these but have seen oil companies which use Darwin for finance and people tend not to be very complimentary about them!

[zooskeeper] 08/11/2018 17:31

Feels like results are coming tomorrow! Please let’s see substantial revenue growth from our wonder material

[club sandwich] 08/11/2018 17:31

Alchemy 3-4 years for £1bn MC? I'd call that abject failure myself. I'm expecting it by the end of next year, assuming we ever get any actual orders...

[magic beans] 08/11/2018 17:21

Alchemy. Agreed. A billion mc is in reach within a shortish timescale(i think it will be sooner). The longer game has potential beyond even some of the most ramptastic posts on here given the scale of potential graphene adoption along with the other 2d materials. DIT are involved for GDP and uk jobs (this has been mentioned several times before but not really been given the attention it deserves). Nothing less than billions of revenue is going to do that. A big leap i know but that is the end game.

[cielos] 08/11/2018 17:18

Complains why it was down at the end of the day?

Sells of course as delayed trades and others reported on the last half hour normal but done during the day.

[luckyorange] 08/11/2018 17:18

I think it was superg who pointed out a while back that you can buy the information on daily sells/buys so you pay some money and you know what is going on, perhaps he will post it up again so that others can make the choice. Those shorting it will have been (not all of them) and will know that their time is very limited.

If you know the system then it gives an advantage.

[tomduck] 08/11/2018 17:06

I tell it how I see it 😉