Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[alchemy] 08/11/2018 12:48

Fever tree must be a fad? As is Coca Cola compared with us.

[superg1] 08/11/2018 12:39

A few bans gone in.

[clint fleecewood] 08/11/2018 12:33

Excellent find Magic Beans. All employees or close associates of VRS bar none :)
I must admit it leaves me nonplussed as to where the representatives of Berts Low Cost Graphene Slurry are as none seem to be included in this discussion? You would have thought the price alone, a mere thruppence a bucket , would have them straight to the top table ;)

[cheek212] 08/11/2018 12:27

I'm not saying now but we will need to start considering within the next 18-24 months IMO especially as collabs start to come good and sales grow.

[andymoore07] 08/11/2018 12:27

Very true!

[anley] 08/11/2018 12:25

CHEEK........not yet and the board of VRS is not in favour either.

[loglorry1] 08/11/2018 12:25

@cookie you wrote "After just over 2 years of research with ICN2 Tunghsu come to Versarien for their graphene."

That's not true. It's yet another collaboration. Did they purchase any or sign an off take agreement?

[chumbo] 08/11/2018 12:23

I suspect most on here hope that expansion can be managed without mahoosive cash raisings. We know the model may vary from market to market.

[ch1rp] 08/11/2018 12:23

Are Fevertree working with China?In the not too distant future we WILL blow them ALL out the WATER:)))

[cheek212] 08/11/2018 12:22

Ok but not business that the major drinks manufacturers are running to and jumping on planes to come and see. Same with ASOS, BOOHOO and Burford Capital. All good businesses in their own market but none that have the potential world changing technology that VRS has in every market!

[andymoore07] 08/11/2018 12:19

Fevertree seem to be doing ok?

[cheek212] 08/11/2018 12:12

This maybe not what all of our investors want to hear but I think for VRS to ever truly reach its share price potential, we need to move from AIM onto the main market. During our growth stage, AIM had been fine but as we start to see collaborations orders flowing and hook ups with countries etc, an AIM listing unfortunately does not get you taken seriously. Yes there are several large businesses on AIM that could move straight into the FTSE 100 if they moved across but IMO none of these have the appeal or ability to change the future like VRS does. An AIM listing also limits the funds that can invest therefore also limiting the share price potential. Very few tracker funds invest in AIM, and some see an AIM listing as too risky for investing in. When the like of Club complains that the share price hasn't moved much on this China news because the 'market' doesn't appreciate the news, we actually are the market, and the bigger market is not interested as they are not able to invest! In time, we will have to move across if we are to be taken seriously IMO.

[bootie64] 08/11/2018 12:06

Graphene takes a step towards renewable fuel

Researchers at Linköping University, Sweden, are working to develop a method to convert water and carbon dioxide to the renewable energy of the future, using the energy from the sun and graphene applied to the surface of cubic silicon carbide. They have now taken an important step towards this goal, and developed a method that makes it possible to produce graphene with several layers in a tightly controlled process.

[bootie64] 08/11/2018 11:58

Nice find magic beans, do you have a link please?

[cookiejug] 08/11/2018 11:55

Has anyone done a brainstorm chart or similar for the acquisitions/collaborations to help follow the general NR/VRS strategy? I can see things forming but it's getting kinda complicated!

As an example...

In April 2016 The ICN2 signed a MoU with the CGIA with the following brief:

"to jointly promote the establishment of a bilateral Spain-China Framework for the development of graphene Technologies, as well as other actions to promote bilateral networking and interchanges between research institutes and companies with activities in graphene technology development"

Four months later, in August 2016, Tunghsu Ltd. signed a SFA with ICN2 to

"Cooperate on the commercial conversion of graphene applications and technology achievements"

ICN2 are a not-for-profit R&D facility in Barcelona - One of the top European facilities for nanomaterial research.

After just over 2 years of research with ICN2 Tunghsu come to Versarien for their graphene.

In August 2018 Versarien acquire Gnanomat, a Spanish company....

Can anyone join the dots for me?

Cheers, Cookie

[alchemy] 08/11/2018 11:41

EVs. Even the popular motoring press talking of nextgen cars or batteries therein being steady state. This month's What Car..P23"The next big step appears to be a move to solid state batteries which will have shorter charging times"Elsewhere it talks of longer , 500 plus ranges.This is just one of the thermals we might be involved in. As long as we are the Intel inside of a number of these , then, roll of drums, - off to the races. --Range. Anxiety is quietening , once charging time is conquered. ...

[fuji99] 08/11/2018 11:38

As the RNS sounds, Tunghsu will be the perfect financial and strategic partner for VRS in the future. As it is listed in the Shenzhen Stock Exchange and is part of the wider Tunghsu Group, which has over 200 wholly-owned or controlled subsidiaries, including three listed companies, VRS could be listed in Hong Kong to benefit Chinese investors. Could it be taken over one day by the very Tunghsu ?

[luckyorange] 08/11/2018 11:35

Looks like a list of Neills friends 🌞

[magic beans] 08/11/2018 11:28

Tunghsu Optoelectronic VP/deputy general manager Zhonghui Wang delivered a speech at GRAPCHINA in September 2016. This is how it ended.

"Tunghsu has already started the international strategic layout and cooperation, and jointly organized graphene research and development center with outstanding global graphene application and research institutions, to acquire and integrate global excellent graphene technology and resources, and actively promote graphene industry development."

He also mentions their graphene investment and financing platform- Tunghsu Huaqing.


Other familiar guest speakers at the event included (in no particular order - lecture titles in brackets):

Andrea Ferrari (Cambridge – headline speaker)

Felice Torrisi (Cambridge – Large-scale manufacturing of graphene and related materials inks for flexible optoelectronics)

Ivan Buckley (UOM/GEIC – China/UK graphene bilateral cooperation forum)

Artem Mishchenko (UOM – Flexible and Transparent Electronics)

Andre Geim (UOM – headline speaker)

Vladimir Falko (UOM – Ballistic electronic devices based on hexagonal boron nitride)

Andrew Pollard (National Physics Laboratory – ISO Standards)

Robert Young (UOM – Graphene/rubber nanocomposites)

Panagiotis Karagiannidis (Cambridge – Microfluidization of graphite for the production of inks, fibres and aerogels)

Lin Hao (National Physics Laboratory – Graphene self-supporting drums for nanoelectromechanical systems resonators and sensors)


Small world.......

[loglorry1] 08/11/2018 11:26

@vrs1 "Axia and AECOM as well as Gnanomat and now Tungshu all have collaborations with VRS. Not any of the other companies that produce graphene, but just VRS."

What utter rubbish. Tungshu are currently using Graphene they are buying it already from another supplier (or manufacturing it themselves).

I'd be amazed if the other big names you mentioned (not Gnanomat) aren't trialing other vendors or making their own.

[billwave] 08/11/2018 11:25

Good morning. Been reading this forum since first investing in Versarien during March this year. Since that time all of my other investments have been cashed in to go 100% in here. There is not a single company on the Market that has achieved more than Versarien within this time frame. It is obvious that the management is not out to make the quick buck but instead chooses to establish a globally reaching market place which can and will grow exponentially. Versarien does not currently have peers or competition in the market place. Certainly there are companies claiming to produce something fit for lining digger buckets, improving sound deadening in vehicles or adding to a road surface, so what? This is not where Versarien is heading. I don't profess to be able to understand a FLG data sheet but thankfully as an investor I don't have to. The reaction from the true experts of the world in this field are telling us all we need to know about the product and its capabilities. If you want proof of this look at the share price and market cap. both of which are driven by supply and demand, so called competitors have a share price of circa 30p for good reason. Professional investors having done many hours of research can see where this is going, the introduction of 2D materials to our world is creating a new era described as the beginning of an industrial revolution not seen in a magnitude of this size for a very long time. This could possibly be one of the biggest companies to emerge in the modern world. Show me one other single company that is laying foundations such as these and gained government support and backing now in at least three countries, it is hard to keep up with progress. How much do you want to pay to be in at the leading edge of this technology? £1, £2, £50 or even £100's of pounds? One thing for sure, the train has left the station and is hurtling down the track, which way are you going to be looking?