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TNI Trinity Mirror

85.70
0.00 (0.00%)
18 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Trinity Mirror LSE:TNI London Ordinary Share GB0009039941 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 85.70 85.00 86.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
23/6/2017
12:05
Another buyback but personally a 20p special. Followed by an aggressive buyback, so not only the management have the cream. And off course sort the pension issue.
cityconindex
22/6/2017
18:52
Aha thanks gfrae - you are right, but actually the way the present the numbers in "box 8" is misleading.

They quote the situation before the transaction, inclusive of the "Right to recall loaned shares" but the situation after the transaction excluding those figures. (I hadn't spotted that the anomaly was constant.)

So in actual fact they still have (or had back in April) 16.3m shares (5.8%) including the loaned shares.


citycon - yes I think you are right Aviva buying and Numis buying back for Treasury is very much a marriage.

Since August last year when the programme started The company have bought back 6.47m shares, over the same period Aviva have sold 7.29m

Co-incidence????

Probably not, but it is essentially a win-win Aviva want an orderly exit without trashing the price whereas the company wants to utilise their bundles of excess cash to buy back shares at a reasonable value.

At the current rate though the currently agreed buyback will finish around the end of the calendar year. What happens then??

kazoom
22/6/2017
13:38
I am parking some of a nice 5 figures profit from NUOG on here, been dumping loads in the spike since yesterday. hehehe. Just gambling those profit.

I will be happy with 95p-100p

bullet ant
22/6/2017
11:35
Thank you guys for expanding the reason's for the volatility of tni. If aviva are selling and Numis are buying is that not a marriage?
cityconindex
22/6/2017
11:20
Kazoom,I havn't looked recently but isn't the apparent anomoly in the Aviva holding explained by the financial instrument that could end up with Aviva ?
I also agree that share price movement is unlikely to signify anything other than a large seller in a hurry in a generally weak and thin market. We are all aware that the advertising market is weak and figures unlikely to beat any forecasts.

gfrae
22/6/2017
10:34
Oh and on the subject of Aviva selling down their holding, you could of course be right Harry, but I don't think it is the whole of the story.
Aviva's last reportable sale was on 21-April when they were left with 13.9m shares. At the time this was 4.8%, but with the buybacks since I think it would now be a little over 5%. (Not sure they would be awake enough to report that change!)
So they could have sold c. around 2m more shares before getting to the 4% reportable threshold. That could represent over 25% of the shares traded since the last notification (at times though they have made up 50% of transactions).

Looking back at the recent Aviva trades I'm still unhappy with what they are reporting. In each statement they have made recently their reported holding "before" the notifiable transaction is substantially higher than the actual holding after the previous notification. I don't believe they are trading in and out (as that would require additional notifications) so I really don't understand what they are reporting. They appear to be substantially overstating the number of shares that they have sold. Why would they do that?





Date
After
Before1
Stated Change2
Actual change3


21-Apr-17
13,902,477
16,716,449
-2,813,972
-458,404


30-Mar-17
14,360,881
17,287,634
-2,926,753
-571,185


28-Mar-17
14,932,066
18,855,125
-3,923,059
-1,567,491


06-Mar-17
16,499,557
21,916,633
-5,417,076
-3,061,508


16-Dec-16
19,561,065
23,684,045
-4,122,980





1 - The "before" position quoted in their RNS
2 - The stated number of shares disposed.
3- The actual change since the last announcement.

kazoom
22/6/2017
09:46
I don't buy the idea that there is undisclosed bad news and also I think it is a fallacy that the market makers actually control the price (at least over any extended period of days the price is at the mercy of the buyers and sellers).

What I think has to be remembered is that there are some extremes of opinion in the market about what TNI is and what it's prospects are.

Over the course of the past year we've seen the price fluctuate between c. 70p and c.120p and not especially driven by new imho.

On two occasions the price has gone below 80p and below 100p on 5 separate occasions.

To be frank I think you just have to live with (and try to exploit) that volatility.

I hadn't really expected the price to go so low at this stage but it could still go lower - when the market gets nervous it's positions like this that can particularly suffer.

I don't know if the company has actually given a confirmed date, but over the next week or two we should expect to get the half year trading update (in advance of the HY accounts at the end of July).

The absence of any unexpected nasties in that update should I would expect, at least put a floor under the share price.

kazoom
21/6/2017
16:34
cityconindex, I have no special knowledge but the most likely scenario in my view is that Aviva are getting impatient and want to quit their position before the end of June, a key valuation date. If you look at the operating it has all the earmarks of a large seller determined to sell in a market with little depth.
harry_david
21/6/2017
12:08
The demise of the share price may mean that the board is not letting out information which the mm know about...35 p in a month, and no statement...seems something is amiss.
The management need to be taken to task for the loss of company value with nothing to act as a catalyst to improve the price, maybe time for new management seems this bunch have lost direction.

cityconindex
21/6/2017
06:28
Kazoom, thanks for the link. I do not know what 'digital' on the graphs represents [X axis]in the article. Is it visitors to the site ?

I have to say that when I visit mirror.co.uk, I am surprised that I have free access , with little advertising. I am surprised that they dont in some way curtail access , by forcing a video upon you , like the bbc abroad or you tube.

xxx
20/6/2017
22:01
The share price has decreased significantly in the last trading hour over the last few days. Manipulation at work as no negative news unless the print contract with the Guardian is seen as such

Still adding but how low will it go until reason kicks in ?

pvee
20/6/2017
07:57
At the agm they said digital display ad revenue was up 19%. Since then the rate of audience growth has speeded up more. Regionals on a monthly basis are now increasing by over 100% yoy.
harry_david
19/6/2017
19:06
Interesting Harry.

No doubt you'll have seen this one (I hadn't up until now, and I guess others won't have either).

How digital growth is outpacing print decline at the big former Local World dailies bought by Trinity Mirror (mar-17)



The figures here show print-circulation and average daily unique web browsers as measured by ABC.

I guess that this is a reasonable like-for-like measure to compare volumes?

It did surprise me to be honest, but as the article clarifies, the trick is still how to "monetize" the digital business.

kazoom
16/6/2017
07:56
Print newspapers may be sliding but boy have these guys learnt how to build their online side. Last month group numbers up nearly 50% yoy to 9.96 million per day. What's more the action is in the regionals where of course they have virtually no competition.
harry_david
16/6/2017
07:30
Tumbling share price and broker's not taking advantage, is this right? Should be clearing up.
cityconindex
12/6/2017
11:52
That's a great deal for us, if true, and more efficiently uses our hardware, even if margins are thin.

Added another 10k.

Stonking value here again now.

philjeans
12/6/2017
05:56
TNI kudos for pulling of the deal...now can we remove more shares off the market and cancel them or pay a special of 15p..to the suffering shareholders.....
cityconindex
11/6/2017
22:29
Good spot smicker and excellent news (or at least rumour of ;-) ).

"Last man standing" in a terminal market is actually a great place to be an beating News UK & Johnston to this would be a significant step on that road.

kazoom
08/6/2017
08:09
Hi gfrae,

The usual constraint is a %age of the volume traded that day.

HTH

extrader
08/6/2017
07:27
Is it my imagination.....or is it that the lower the share price is the less shares that they buy in ?
gfrae
24/5/2017
19:39
hxxp://news.sky.com/story/trinity-mirror-turns-the-page-on-regional-newspaper-chief-10891772
smicker
23/5/2017
16:28
Thanks for sharing the ABCs again Harry. Not really anything I can comment on. Whilst I still think the money is in the legacy business as it stands, it's clearly important that the scale and momentum of digital continue to grow.
kazoom
23/5/2017
13:21
I have high regard for the present management. Sly should just be forgotten, there is no money in wasting time on revenge.
harry_david
23/5/2017
01:15
h_d thanks, I will look at the site.
You have been here a while, what do you think about the lack of financial consequences for the management during the Sly Bailey regime ? [Lets deny reality and rape the place seems to have been the leit motif]

xxx
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