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TNI Trinity Mirror

85.70
0.00 (0.00%)
18 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Trinity Mirror LSE:TNI London Ordinary Share GB0009039941 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 85.70 85.00 86.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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22/5/2017
10:11
Sorry, should be inyourarea.co.uk
harry_david
22/5/2017
06:37
Xxx, the figures are the official abc's released last Thursday for month of April. Very impressive.
They are starting a new site inyourarea.com which appears to be based on their regional strengths. Does anyone have a view?

harry_david
22/5/2017
06:17
Sly should be asked to repay a bulk of that back once the last case is closed in the courts. Voluntary or by legal action.
cityconindex
22/5/2017
02:54
I think similarly about regional sites. Have you got a source for the figures h_d ?

Separately, what do people think about the lack of consequences for the management of Trinity mirror,who presided during the hacking debacle ? I note that Sly Bailey took out over 14m pounds over her time as ceo.

xxx
19/5/2017
12:18
I don't know if anyone is interested in the digital progress, but the April figures for Trinity's Regional sites increased year on year by 94% to 4.3 million unique visits per day. This number includes Local World for last year's April so the figure is not puffed. The National site was up 14%, not bad.
In my view the Regional sites have the best long term potential because they in many cases have no competition.

harry_david
18/5/2017
14:09
They'll be rising in US in June again for starters.

Only one thing will prevent interest rates rising and that's the National debt resulting in a debt implosion!

Just about serviceable at current rates. Eg £50-55bn per year to service UK debt now.

Imagine the services that money could buy.

fangorn2
17/5/2017
16:07
I hope you are right,but I am afraid I don't see interest rates rising for a long time.....if ever !
gfrae
17/5/2017
15:21
We are into a rising interest rate enviroment if inflation continues to rise!
Bond yields are likely to rise before interest rates rise.
As Kazoom has pointed out from BT figures it is the size of the deficit and changes to same that are material.

freddie ferret
17/5/2017
08:03
Unfortunately, low interest rates and a relatively high inflation rate does not equal a better pension fund value valuation !
gfrae
16/5/2017
15:41
Not that I know of.

If the pensions problem is in remission due to a better investment enviroment then with the co share buy back scheme and a PE sub 3 we should see some price action here shortly??

freddie ferret
16/5/2017
09:38
Hi freddie I don't think that there is any useful information for other schemes from the RM announcement.

I haven't scratched beneath the surface, but at face value the RM statement appearas to be outrageous double-speak designed to bamboozle and rip-off the pensioners.

They say :

> The scheme was "in surplus" at the relevant date (31-Mar-15)
> Therefore there is no need to make additional "deficit correction" payments.
> But because the level of payments in do not meet the growing liabilities the scheme is untenable and will be in deficit by 2018.
> Therefore the plan will close to future accrual from Mar-18.
> There is also a statement that to me reads as though they want to enter negotiations to renege on the existing pension commitments (AKA deferred pay).

I can't really argue against the tide of closing schemes like this (although I think there are more imaginative solutions).

However, it is surely a nonsense to say that the scheme is in surplus therefore does not require the co. to pay in extra, but then is deficit in the future. The whole idea of determining whether a scheme is in deficit or surplus is to assess the future assets and liabilities during the lifetime of the scheme.

Or have I misunderstood something?

kazoom
15/5/2017
16:29
I have not waded through all this but there may be some nuggets within.
freddie ferret
12/5/2017
15:20
Mm do your best, manipulate the share price to take out stop losses. Interest rates are going to be tweaked maybe before Brexit those selling now will be kicking themselves as the jump in price going to be fast 😊
cityconindex
11/5/2017
09:05
Just some random scribblings on the pension deficit.

As at Dec-16 the pension deficit (net of tax) stood at £385m (c. 118% of the current market cap).

Scheme assets were 78% of liabilities (down from 83% the previous year).

Just as a bit of "read across" I was looking at the BT scheme this morning, they reported scheme assets (31-Mar) of 85% (down from 88%).

The schemes are completly different beasts of course, but directionally there is something that may be of interest.

BT report their deficit in the quarterly results and the figures are :

31-Mar-16 5.2Bn (6.4Bn)
30-Jun-16 6.2Bn (7.6Bn)
30-sep-16 9.5Bn (11.5Bn)
31-Dec-16 9.2Bn (11.5Bn)
31-Mar-17 7.6Bn (9.1Bn)

So for BT at least a small reduction in the net deficit from September to December and a more significant reduction since.

So perhaps some tangible evidence that the metrics and assumptions may be starting to move favourably, because TNI's %age gap is bigger than BT's (22% as opposed to 15%) all things being equal (which of course they are not) you'd expect the TNI deficit to swing more quickly.

Proves nothing of course, but I'll certainly be interested in reading the latest position from the H1 results. (Funding will be based on the December 16 position so I would imagine contributions will increase, but this IMHO is just likely to accelerate the elimination of the deficit.

kazoom
10/5/2017
14:06
I'd been wondering if we would conclusively break 120 this time, but given that we go XD tomorrow it will be less than clear. Unless of course we break 120 XD ;-)

On top of my main position, I closed out a trade from 110 - 118 & a bit on the basis that I thought there might again be resistance at this level.

Interesting where we go next, I've certainly got a target well north of this but not sure that I expect the market to grant it in the short term.

kazoom
10/5/2017
12:32
My target price remains 180p on a PE of 6. Pension deficit has been a drag but is well covered by the freeholds. No debt, huge cash generation, increasing digital uniques, further acquisitions, etc..
patience a virtue
10/5/2017
10:37
Who said 120 take a bow and why are Aviva selling and seems in such vast quantities? Has it now come to the end?
cityconindex
09/5/2017
16:10
If Aviva are taken out these would be set to really move. No bad news and new possibilities with unique online businesses to attract fresh institutions.
harry_david
09/5/2017
13:01
xd tomorrow. or maybe Thurs.
bingham
09/5/2017
11:32
Market makers are offering more than the quoted price ..very unusual.
cityconindex
05/5/2017
13:12
Looking at the graph it seems to be set for hitting 120p soon.
davebowler
04/5/2017
20:07
Dull perhaps, but some good points in agm discussion. Hacking now 85% completed on known cases, some excellent initiatives in their exclusive area of regional linked to national digital, and negotiations appear still live on acquisitions. Last point an interpretation of careful language but think correct.
Interestingly they claim to now have the biggest total digital uniques in UK of all UK news sites including the Daily Mail. This going to turn in some real money when they develop the angles.

harry_david
04/5/2017
11:47
Suits me just fine - lovely yield; debt almost cleared; still cheap as chips on a P/E of 3 !!

BUY

philjeans
04/5/2017
10:32
OK statement, performance for the year to be in line with market expectations.
patience a virtue
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