Tribal Share Discussion Threads

[illtud] 16/1/2014 07:19

Interesting update today. 'adjusted profit before tax and earnings... better than previous expectations'

Net debt down to £4.6m at the end of December 2013 from £9.9m at the end of December 2012.

At that rate, Tribal should be debt free this year.

illtud

[napoleon 14th] 14/1/2014 21:23

Good one simon.
Great reference!

[moneymaker80] 14/1/2014 16:56

Also bought today. Seems to be on the move again,

[gucci] 14/1/2014 11:09

back in today

[simon gordon] 09/1/2014 09:33

YouTube:

Published on 9 Jan 2014

The first film in the 'Powered by Tribal' series. Exeter University describe how Tribal's Enterprise Service Desk software has enhanced the delivery of their student services.

[illtud] 08/1/2014 16:10

Thanks napoleon. I agree with all you've said including it's on the way back up, with the caveat that it still may not go up in a straight line.

I think 2014 could be a good year for Tribal shareholders

[napoleon 14th] 08/1/2014 12:52

On the way back up imo.

[illtud] 19/12/2013 22:37

I'm trying to understand charts and am beginning to see a glimmer of light so I am now able to follow some of the reasoning in fingers' charts above.

However, I am doubtful that charts are more than a rough guide to what might happen as they seem to work independently of actual events. For example, if Tribal produces a stormer of a report or TA then shouldn't that over ride any existing trend.

I believe that Tribal is likely to be making a good profits with a strong cashflow and that will be reported in the next report.

Until that happens, fingers' chart may well be right but things will change afterwards.

Just my opinion

illtud

[fingers xxd] 19/12/2013 18:32

Simon Gordon - TRB

[illtud] 12/12/2013 21:43

Interesting but it doesn't explain a lot about how exactly Tribal would deliver what is needed.

The idea of a system that brings in all agencies involved with a child and follows the child throughout childhood is great, of course, because children known to be vulnerable or even 'at risk' can very easily get lost in the present system and end up 'whereabouts unknown'.

There used to be a fairly rigorous system for tracking every child's move from school to school. When a child left one school to go to another, the head of the first school had to pass a copy of the pupil's records to the new school who had then to confirm to the previous school that the child had been admitted. In that way, it became known immediately if a child 'dropped out' and enquiries would be made, involving the Local Education Authorities and Social Services. Simple really.

Unfortunately, the rules were changed by various governments so that those records were no longer required to be kept.

Now, so I am told by a recently retired primary school headteacher, there are estimated to be somewhere in excess of 10,000 children in the UK whose whereabouts are unknown. Estimated because the systems no longer exist within the education system to record them or locate them. I don't know about the health or social services systems.

The point is that there is a desperate need for a workable system that encompasses all child agencies.

The Tribal system may be it.

illtud

[simon gordon] 12/12/2013 13:23

YouTube - Published on 12 Dec 2013:

Synergy Early Intervention and Safeguarding (EIS) has been designed in collaboration with Social Care experts and practitioners to provide local authorities with a flexible and innovative approach to managing critical information within child protection services.

The solution is designed to rapidly adapt to changes in policy or legislation, while ensuring your practitioners can focus on keeping children and young people safe.

[illtud] 30/11/2013 22:14

I can only agree.

It's one of my biggest holdings. I like the whole story of the present set up and have great hopes.

I see the share price make good advances in 2014 after the March report and do even better in 2015. In the meantime, I think we will have to wait, although the share price has the capacity to surprise us with sudden little surges for no apparent reason.

illtud

[simon gordon] 30/11/2013 21:45

Illtud,

Thanks.

I see TRB as a multi year growth story, a potential FTSE 250 company in the making. They've got all the ingredients; best in class software, global market to aim at, smart bolt-ons, decent balance sheet, management team who are building a reputation for innovation and delivery.

[illtud] 30/11/2013 20:46

simon gordon.

I hope you continue to post on here. You seem very good at digging things out. You encourage me to try harder.

illtud

[illtud] 30/11/2013 20:41

A well thought out, all embracing but highly focused system. Typical of Tribal imho.

Given Tribal's experience of developing similar systems for Universities and Colleges and their experience of school inspections, I would expect Synergy to be a very good system. Possibly a world beater like SITS VISION.

illtud

[illtud] 30/11/2013 20:34

Apart from Capita, other companise that offer similar systems include; WCBS, Feduna, RM Education and OpenEMIS.

There may be others.

WCBS seems to specialise in the private school market

Feduna is International, multi cultural and multi lingual.

RM Education appears to be more about educational resources

OpenEMIS is a royalty free generic system, sponsored by UNESCO and largely designed for third world countries.

Tribal is focused more on the English speaking countries but there are signs of that changing.

illtud

[illtud] 30/11/2013 18:51

No I don't. It's something I've never done.

However, in a previous life, I used to be an education administrator and dealt with most of the back office functions over the years so I fool myself that I can understand what Tribal and Compass are doing. I even planned and introduced a pupil/student based database for the Local Authority I worked for, but nothing like Synergy.

illtud

[simon gordon] 30/11/2013 18:29

Illutd,

I agree the SIMS product is more back office orientated but does look like it offers some of the Synergy functionality but, like you say, it's not such a focused product for pupil support and administration.

Be excellent if there wasn't a similar product in the market.

Do you converse with TRB?

[illtud] 30/11/2013 18:01

simon gordon.

I've viewed the video and I was impressed. I also looked at what Tribal and Capita said on their websites about what their systems do for schools. As far as I can see, the Tribal system is very orientated towards providing support for pupil administration in the same way as SITS VISION handles student administration whereas the Capita system seems to me to be more directed towards infrastructure and resources in both schools and universities.

If I am right, it fits in with what I understand about Tribal and Capita and there may be little competition between them.

illtud

[simon gordon] 30/11/2013 15:54

Synergy for Schools looks like it's going up against the big daddy in this space, Capita SIMS:

SIMS (School Information Management System) is a world-class management information system used by over 22,000 schools in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Our solution has been developed specifically for the education sector and has been refined to meet the changing needs of schools over the last 25 years.

Our system has a unique depth and breadth enabling schools to manage student and staff information across all areas of school life including registration, finance and payroll, timetabling, progress tracking and assessment, and whole-school communication.

hxxp://www.capita-sims.co.uk/

Be interesting to find out what Synergy's USP is so that it can start displacing SIMS.

[simon gordon] 29/11/2013 20:38

Illtud,

What do you reckon to TRB's new software product for schools, Synergy?

YouTube - 25/10/13:

Synergy in Schools is a new on line management information system. It significantly reduces the time spent in managing the administrative, academic and behavioural data required in the day-to-day operations of a school.

The solution includes a range of modules which have been developed with the objective of maximising school efficiencies, while minimising administrative overheads.



Is this a new market for TRB? I don't think they've previously sold software systems to schools.

[illtud] 28/11/2013 12:28

I think you're right about TA although I've only recently got into it and am still struggling.

But it's the future prospects for Tribal that brought me here, not the charts.

illtud