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[stead41] 20/10/2019 17:57

Mike Routhorn20 Oct '19 - 17:50 - 170737 of 170737
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I think that Microsoft last week openly telling their customers and the world that if they want to utilise the Azure platform at IoT scale they will need to utilise DA's KeyScaler is a total game changer.

I was trying to come up with an analogy from the world of business but as Microsoft are the biggest company in the world I couldn't.

It really doesn't get much bigger than this.


Microsoft didn’t tell their customers or the world, I thought Ian Banham was a special guest on DA’s webinar, so they told DA’s customers or potential customers...

[mike routhorn] 20/10/2019 17:50

I think that Microsoft last week openly telling their customers and the world that if they want to utilise the Azure platform at IoT scale they will need to utilise DA's KeyScaler is a total game changer.

I was trying to come up with an analogy from the world of business but as Microsoft are the biggest company in the world I couldn't.

It really doesn't get much bigger than this.

[matt2019] 20/10/2019 17:48

Andrbea, thanks for posting the YouTube clip.. I watched it closely. The Microsoft chap doesn’t say we are not there yet in terms of IoT security. He is talking about where the programming for the smart hardware sits .. on the device or in the cloud.. this is what he is referring to when he says we are not there yet. He only talks about IoT security AFTER he has said this and goes on to say we want to give customers what they want and stresses what they want is simplicity and seamless service .. this is great news for DA. As far as revenues , it’s clear to me MS are on a journey , they will lead and DA will follow in the slip stream.. MS have great plans for IoT and when they scale up revenues, that is when DA should see the benefits. We have seen Tern share price move massively in one day .. the key question for me is do I to come in after the rises or benefit from being in before hand .. as a long term investor .. I’m in and prepared to wait .. patience pays if you have done your homework

[podium] 20/10/2019 17:23

All of this choose and choice talk... have you all no compassion for little dorky? A clear victim of modern day slavery- beholden to post on one specific internet BB 24/7; very often being denied sleep. Even had no choice in his username, instead a stamp of ownership from his paymaster. The things people have to do to live in a shed. One day, I can only hope, he'll achieve his dream of being a porter for the NHS. Until then, we can only pity him. A life of being an internet troll, and nothing else... not much of an achievement is it?

[queenwood] 20/10/2019 17:10

A poster on another thread said you lot were all pump and dumpers and that there was no evidence of Microsoft being involved with da don’t worry I put him right on the facts and I’ve had no reply so he’s just gone

[duxy786] 20/10/2019 16:58

Simple, lot simpler solutions out there and don't have the costs associated with DA

[kcowe] 20/10/2019 16:36

makes one wonder why companies are not running to DA,S doors the solution to their continiung problems are at hand ? why is the market so slow to take this offer up?

[stead41] 20/10/2019 16:30

Mike Routhorn20 Oct '19 - 14:00 - 170726 of 170729
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Hawkind, I wouldn't get into hair splitting arguements with the naysayers.

The word 'choose' implies an optional course of action between equally competing scenarios.

It's not really a choice when only one path takes you to your desired result.

You need to get from London to New York in 12 hours. Do you have much choice as to whether or not you get on a plane?

You need your crops to grow. Do you have much choice in whether or not you water them?

You have a software platform full of rich features that your customer loves but your customer wants to put 100,000 devices on the platform over the course of a weekend and your functionality can't do it.

Do you have much choice in pointing them at KeyScaler given the pivotal nature of the problem? No you don't. Either it scales up to 100,000 or your customer goes elsewhere.

Choice indeed. Pah..




If you think Keyscaler is the only solution you’re mad, I mentioned Globalsign yesterday so here is some more information...




GlobalSign’s IoT team has seen an increasing number of customers choosing the Azure IoT Hub platform for its purpose-built IoT infrastructure, integrated environments, developer tools, and Platform as a Service (PaaS) capabilities. An interesting aspect of MS Azure IoT Hub is its focus on security, which it takes very seriously. It uses public key infrastructure (PKI) and Device Certificates as a standard authentication mechanism for devices – a methodology we believe to be the de facto credential for IoT identity Management. In fact, PKI’s Role in Securing the IoT is a principal we’ve adhered to for years.

Valid identity credentials are necessary to connect devices to the Azure IoT Hub and Device Provisioning Service. GlobalSign’s IoT Identity Platform and IoT Edge Enroll device enrollment software provide those credentials with device identity provisioning and identity lifecycle management for devices or endpoints. GlobalSign’s platform enables each device or endpoint to enroll and receive a unique device identifier via an X.509 digital certificate, a strong device identity that can be authenticated by Azure IoT Hub and Azure Device Provisioning Service.

Because GlobalSign’s IoT Identity Platform and IoT Edge Enroll are highly scalable, capable of issuing over 3,000 certificates per second and millions per day, they are ideally suited to the high-volume Azure IoT Hub ecosystem. Customers eager to test a proof of concept (PoC) with low volume certificate issuance and then rapidly scale to thousands or millions of certificates in full production, will find the GlobalSign and Azure integration a smooth path to success.


Does that scale enough for you...

[milesy] 20/10/2019 16:23

And of course every so often certificates expire and human error means this doesn’t always get picked up and acted upon

[still waiting] 20/10/2019 16:19

If DA can plug into the Microsoft and Fido alliance ecosystems independently it must increase our resale value X? Already.

[enigma2oo2] 20/10/2019 16:09

Oh dear Mrs.Mathews has gone quite bonkers now, the thought of the Brexit suicide pact has quite unnerved her.

Of course being a high court judge, a political adviser to the PM,an airline pilot , a millionaire and a world famous financier is a lot to lose.

Add to that the fact she is never wrong, her advice to sump TERN before it rose by 40% recently was a coup, and her assurance that Brexit will NEVER happen add to her incredibility.


Superwoman will be well missed by her boy friend Jon Capper.

[enigma2oo2] 20/10/2019 15:58

Calm down Mrs. Mathews, and get those filthy knickers changed before Brexit.

We don`t want the Samaritans to find you hanging there stinking.

[andrbea] 20/10/2019 14:35

A reminder of the depth of the DA integration back at Intel:

14 Aug '19 - 16:57 - 161489
only tuned in late, some notes:


hardware flexibility
We've been working with ARM for the last 18 months (on SDO solutions) for connecting to ARM MCU (microcontrollers), to a Windows box, servers, to Intel Xeon .... or to any cloud. So not just to Intel processors.

1st meeting for FIDO alliance on IoT use cases was 2 weeks ago. Also discussed SDO there.

For SDO we have devised an 'ownership voucher'. The voucher is shipped to the device management platform. Then the SDO Rendezvous Service. Onboarding max 1 minute. SDO Lifetime Management is eg 10 years.

Devices are bound to target platform at install. Late binding, thus simplifying manufacturing flow for ODMs (so high-volume production possible of IoT devices)

Automated Credential management is next step. Object: to enroll trusted devices into the IoT platform or services. Provision certificates and tokens to connect to IoT services.

Data Trust & privacy. Good key management, not just encryption. Regulatory compliance. Sign software updates with the right private keys. Device decommissioning at end-of-life or revoke tokens/certificates.

Memory footprint of SDO software for small devices. Intel working with ARM to get it even lower. Currently 80 kB. The SDO part cannot leak data later on, or credentials. It works for a minute. And then shuts down.

DA working with major CSPs. Some of those will then set up on-premise Rendezvous servers. Eg on an Intel nook PC.

KeyScaler connects to: Azure, AWS, PTC, .... platforms. We can connect KS to those systems. Or to others thru' the enhanced connector.

andrbea
14 Aug '19 - 18:28 - 161506
And some first half notes:

11m on the timebar
Managing trust at scale . sensitive data to be secured.. on medical devices.. need for authorized access and secure device credentials for the 40bn devices (expected globally) by 2025.

14 min
oil & gas platform.. the need to prevent credential theft ... automatic onboarding of devices and sensors.. no humans in the mix who have knowledge of the credentials

15m30s
Patient Monitoring gateway to monitor the patient's ongoing health situation, around the hospital (when moved to new wards/rooms). Security of patient data, across the network. Device-bound crypto keys. Data is validated and verified by the gateway. Towards 'plug & play' device onboarding.

19m45s:
Wireless (or Wired & wireless hybrids) for communications on the factory floor. On-prem factory floor provisioning. Richard (Intel) I had a client on this subject just in the last 24 hours... Evolution towards a mobile helper app to give devices network access.

[mike routhorn] 20/10/2019 14:00

Hawkind, I wouldn't get into hair splitting arguements with the naysayers.

The word 'choose' implies an optional course of action between equally competing scenarios.

It's not really a choice when only one path takes you to your desired result.

You need to get from London to New York in 12 hours. Do you have much choice as to whether or not you get on a plane?

You need your crops to grow. Do you have much choice in whether or not you water them?

You have a software platform full of rich features that your customer loves but your customer wants to put 100,000 devices on the platform over the course of a weekend and your functionality can't do it.

Do you have much choice in pointing them at KeyScaler given the pivotal nature of the problem? No you don't. Either it scales up to 100,000 or your customer goes elsewhere.

Choice indeed. Pah.

[andrbea] 20/10/2019 13:59

Microsoft Azure's IoT security man (Mr Bloch) admitted in Feb 2019
Talking IoT


slide timebar to 7min 45s

Today we're not there yet. We're working towards that .... We still have to understand what's going on on the device side of things. .. Securing hardware devices ...

[stead41] 20/10/2019 13:59

Any potential investors will see that, if so then Sisto’s plan will fail...

[seewhatimean] 20/10/2019 13:52

Get real. DA is 'worth' £10k at most.

[kkrr11ss2] 20/10/2019 13:51

Excellent news for Terns investors

More than 90 per cent of Fortune 500 companies run on Azure, and 92 per cent of the Forbes Global 2000 are SAP customers. Microsoft and SAP share a large partner network to support customers on their journey to the cloud

[dave444] 20/10/2019 13:41

SW I think you have been confused by TERN F and would not comment on it if I were you