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[gbh2] 27/11/2018 10:16

steeplejack - I've spent the last ten years studying genealogy and imo the Ruling class hasn't moved far from the Land owner and Surfs mentality.

Our Parliamentary system was set up to do just what it has done for the last 400 years, it maintains the status quo i.e. "The existing state of affairs, especially regarding social or political issues."

[m4rtinu] 27/11/2018 09:52

Steeple - ironically, if the result of the 1st ref had been Remain, I think people would have just accepted it; as it maintained a status quo.

As for Blair, I hate him at least as much as Thatcher and he did nothing for the Remain vote; apart from as you say, encouraging people to reject the EU.

The main problem with the ref was that it was close and for such an important decision, the idiot Cameron should have insisted on a 2/3rds vote to overturn the current position. The high turnout of course, does give extra validity to the Leave vote, but don't tell them that :)

I think there is a plausible argument that says that: now we know what the option for leaving under May's deal is (apart from a hell of a lot of detail!), there is a truer comparison to be made between Remain and May's deal and if you like, a 3rd which is to leave with no deal. However, if the vote were split 40% Remain, 30% Mays deal, 30% Leave then where do you go from there. Is that interpretable as 60% Leave. And BTW, I could still see a Leave vote, on a 2nd ref. If it was a binary choice again. Mainly because the British can be so bloody stubborn.

[wfl1970] 27/11/2018 09:25

Tony Bliar seems to have done alright out of his ten years... ;)

[gbh2] 27/11/2018 09:20

More likely that we'll see a General Election and a Labour government before a 2nd referendum.

Then the country really will grind to a halt and we'll have another ten wasted years for the vast majority of the population!

[wfl1970] 27/11/2018 09:14

Although I believe, that should Scotland have an independence referendum, they would vote for it this time...

So they could then stay in the EU!

How things can change eh...

[hernando2] 27/11/2018 09:03

Funny how some people confuse a one off referendum, normally talked as a once in a generation happening, with the normal democratic process of the country.

When the Scots that's is the SNP lost their vote in their referendum, they were castigated for suggesting that they could have another in a couple of years and indeed Sturgeon is mow bit of a laughingstock.

I bet lots of people calling for a second referendum on the EU vote are the same people who were refusing the Scots another vote.

Hypocrites

[martyn9] 27/11/2018 09:01

WFL, fair comment who the hell knows? :)

[marksp2011] 27/11/2018 08:41

Fangorn

I see you are another totalitarian

Everyone gets a single vote - when, at 18? Noone is allowed to change their mind as they have already voted. No need for general elections as they have already had a vote.

An interesting view on democracy.

[1carus] 27/11/2018 00:19

Fyi age distributions.

[1carus] 27/11/2018 00:12

Hmm, if our population is ageing, thanks to the baby boomers. Why do people keep going on about a shift in a re-run of the brexit vote because there are now new young'ns available to vote. There must also be a lot more old's. ( Based on the original assumption that the older you are the bigger the likelihood you would vote leave)

[1carus] 27/11/2018 00:12

Hmm, if our population is ageing, thanks to the baby boomers. Why do people keep going on about a shift in a re-run of the brexit vote because there are now new young'ns available to vote. There must also be a lot more old's. ( Based on the original assumption that the older you are the bigger the likelihood you would vote leave)

[fangorn2] 26/11/2018 23:31

How about we simply implement the result and keep democracy going for a bit longer???

Or is that an old fashioned view these days?

[disneydonald] 26/11/2018 21:25

Martin. Well, if there is to be another vote it may be a little tighter this time. Since the original vote some of the more elderly and staunch Brexiters will have passed, and a lot more youngsters (generally remainers)have turned 18 and now have the vote. Add to that the passive remainers who did not vote as they never expected it to go the way it did, and I reckon it may swing the other way. Either way, someone has to blink first, before we can resolve the issue.

[lord gnome] 26/11/2018 21:20

Spoon4 is a wind up merchant and a doppelgänger. Don't feed the trolls.

[tlobs2] 26/11/2018 20:09

Eh spoon, I see that you have an inability to look at historical share prices. Where was the price this time last week when you went short?

[spoon4] 26/11/2018 18:00

So with the FTSE up not far off 100 points this share is down AGAIN.

LOOK FOR 6Pin 3 years

[marksp2011] 26/11/2018 16:38

None of the UK parties are EU fans as the EU takes away some of their powers. Ego rules

[m4rtinu] 26/11/2018 15:16

Steeple #525 - very good post; even if I am on a different side of some fences to you (or so I guess; could be wrong). I voted Remain and would again, but it seems Leavers are equally, if not more dogged and would vote to Leave again. It is an interesting scenario that May's deal could yet be passed after a 2nd people's vote.

I am also a Labour/ Corbyn supporter but have to agree Labour have been poor in opposition; not least because Corbyn is not a fan of the EU.

Both sides of the debate (Remain/Leave) appeared to be led by non-Labour figures, which has sidelined us a bit.