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SUN Surgical Innovations Group Plc

0.50
-0.025 (-4.76%)
31 Jan 2025 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Surgical Innovations Group Plc LSE:SUN London Ordinary Share GB0004016704 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.025 -4.76% 0.50 0.45 0.55 0.525 0.50 0.53 0.00 13:20:24
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Surgical,med Instr,apparatus 12.01M -509k -0.0005 -10.00 4.9M
Surgical Innovations Group Plc is listed in the Surgical,med Instr,apparatus sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker SUN. The last closing price for Surgical Innovations was 0.53p. Over the last year, Surgical Innovations shares have traded in a share price range of 0.40p to 0.90p.

Surgical Innovations currently has 932,816,000 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Surgical Innovations is £4.90 million. Surgical Innovations has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -10.00.

Surgical Innovations Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
07/11/2019
09:39
That’s much more like it
bashor
07/11/2019
09:36
2 massive trades.
jmf69
07/11/2019
08:43
... buy price at 2.5p
mandate
07/11/2019
08:06
And another 100K for Paul
bashor
05/11/2019
17:43
Nice one Paul, I appreciate your show of confidence
bashor
05/11/2019
15:39
Paul hardy picking up another 500k
jmf69
04/11/2019
18:11
Probably see another 500k buy show up tomorrow
jmf69
04/11/2019
17:10
And relax the pension rules for surgeons so maybe they can work a few more NHS hours doing keyhole surgery
bashor
04/11/2019
17:00
Hopefully whichever new government comes in will pump some much needed cash into the NHS.
jmf69
04/11/2019
16:13
I live in hope, no trades showing as yet today
bashor
04/11/2019
14:35
Been a number of steady ticks up recently
jmf69
31/10/2019
10:47
Could it be that trading has improved ever so slightly?
bashor
26/10/2019
06:59
It’s nice to see a positive gesture
bashor
25/10/2019
15:51
Director buying provides a little positive consolation
jmf69
13/10/2019
15:27
A "SUN BB posts Excision and Total Clearance" aka POST REMOVED has been carried out by the unfailingly logical one...using a YelloPort Elite Keyboard !

To remove all BB evidence before the SUN cash CPR or Post-Mortem !!!

multibagger
01/10/2019
10:27
On Line spread for 50K 1.856 / 2.1
gbh2
01/10/2019
09:29
Something is odd as well as the spread
bashor
01/10/2019
08:47
The spread is ridiculous right now
jmf69
27/9/2019
10:30
Certainly is! anyone here or possibly BGF reversing out?
bashor
27/9/2019
09:28
That's a lot to dump in one go!
mandate
26/9/2019
14:29
Because market makers aren't gamblers, they only want to hold stock that they think people want to buy. The ask price hasn't moved, the bid price has moved up a bit, because market makers are a little more confident that they will be able to sell what they buy (as long as they don't buy too much!).
gnnmartin
26/9/2019
14:09
Why would the bid price move north by 11% on such low volume
bashor
22/9/2019
08:56
............... Tender for the supply of surgical cutting blades .............


How difficult is it to get some prices ? This took me less than 10 mins
A telephone enquiry would be helpful before the tender document.
The company I chose at random and without any research other than looking for a smallish UK based company that does work for the medical industry and works to advertised close tolerances using modern Computer numerical control (CNC) machines .




a) This is a tender to provide surgical cutting blades as shown on the drawing supplied and the samples provided.

b) The type of material used shall be surgical grade stainless steel type xxx yyy

c) The tolerances shall be 0.01mm for any turned operation and 0.001 mm for any ground surface

d) Please quote prices for the following order sizes

1) 100 units
1) 1,000 units
2) 5,000 units
3) 10,000 units

e) Please indicate time for the completion of the above orders after receipt of tender. It is anticipated that a small order for 100 units would be placed initially to be followed by a larger order subject to assessment and testing.


f) Finished blades shall be individually separated from each other by means of a clean paper membrane so that cutting edges do NOT become compromised against each other.

Completed orders shall be boxed in batches of 50 units of the same type per box such that damage will not take placed during transit .
Please indicate courier and type of delivery proposed before sending completed items.





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I believe Surgical Innovations have a clean area where surgical blades are decontaminated/sterilised and cleaned to hospital standards before packaging takes place. I assume that surgical blades are packaged in vacuum sealed packages again at Leeds in a clean room environment.


This area would presumably also have to be kept in house to allow SI to maintain and meet their quality control requirements.


IMO there is NO reason whatsoever why the machining operations themselves could not be outsourced to TWO engineering companies at the same time = duality in case of a problem with one eg factory fire or close down.


I have not mentioned any quality standards in the above , these could be added, however the fact that SI can provide samples of the cutters , graspers, dissectors, or any other type of MIS and surgical metal part should make the manufacture process quite easy. A drawing however is also recommended and required by any engineer worth their salt.


There is always a telephone number with a contact name suppled by such smaller engineering companies , the one above employs circa 42 people. Ringing this gent should determine within less than 10 minutes if they can do the work and are interested on quoting.

One would imagine that IF work carried out is satisfactory , other orders could follow , as volumes increase for other metal parts , one would expect unit costs to fall further as SI became a larger customer.

buywell has had no contact with the company mentioned and has no financial interest in it.

It has been selected purely by carrying out a web search for UK providers of precision milling and grinding services, as an example of what is out there and to demonstrate just how quickly SI could start to outsource to cut costs in a meaningful way.


dyor


Addendum:

Folks may remember SI acquired some assets of Surgical Dynamics , (who are still trading)

One of those assets was a metal injection moulding machine. Assuming this machine is operational at SI Leeds machine shop , it could be used to supply the various metal blank shaped jaws ( cutters/claspers etc) to be finished/ground to final sharpness/profile .

However IMO this machine will also be available at various outsourcing enterprises eg


IMO this process is another that can be outsourced.

buywell2
21/9/2019
09:19
It would seem that the new BOD are in the early stages of cost cutting:


I refer to a couple of snippets from the recent financial report that give me some hope that much more is to come regarding cutting production costs ie outsourcing where it is possible and makes commercial sense to do so.


1) ''Gross margin up by 4.1% to 43.1% (2018H1: 39.0%) due to manufacturing efficiencies''

comment:

A 4.1% increase on margins does indeed seem to have been achieved by 'manufacturing efficiencies' which IMO comes from the fall in cost of sales of 322K .

Cost of sales 2019(2.90M) .... 2018(3.22M)



2) ''Identifying opportunities to simplify processes and methods''

comment:

IMO 'simplify processes' might equate to outsourcing a manufacturing process .


3) ''Targeting faster time to market,lower unit costs ''

comment:

'lower unit costs' IMO can only be achieved by lowering manufacturing costs .





IF the bulk of the work done in the Leeds machine shop can be outsourced then that would mean a much more smaller premises/office could be leased or acquired in Leeds if that is a 'must' location.

Design QA and RA plus perhaps some machines to do prototype works for new devices plus to begin with the retention of the 'clean area' where required cleaning/sterilisation and final quality checks are made before packaging and dispatch .


IMO SI needs to shave off another 1,500,000 pounds on top of the 322K it has just managed to do.

If 322k = 4.1% margin increase then :

Pro rata a further 1,500,000 saving along the same lines would equate to a further margin improvement of 18.9%

Gross Margin could then rise to 62% which is what is needed IMO as a target.
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--------------------- Distalmotion and Dexter -----------------------

IMO a game changer for SUN if CE approval is obtained by Distalmotion who to put it bluntly IMO are falling behind with previous dates given.

Clearly IMO there are some issues that need sorting and in the meantime others are entering that potentially NHS lucrative robotic surgical space and probably getting a head start on SUN now .

dyor

buywell2
21/9/2019
09:19
POST REMOVED
buywell2
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