It may well come to that bones but ST have talked of a three year process to design in their brakes, maybe this can be done more quickly in an emergency but with the new Corvette being such a high performance vehicle I imagine this could cause real problems. |
Quemaster ,I'm saying they would switch their design to allow use of an alternative disc . They will need time to do that but if sce can't supply discs reliably then they will have to change to an alternative and redesign the car to suit .
That's what I think GM are doing here ,realised that they can't supply them reliably or in time so sent a guy in to get the discs they need until they can move to someone else .
Their reputation is in tatters and it's been going on too long to have faith they will suddenly sort the issues and expand to meet demand .
Hundred was a disaster when it went from innovation to manufacturing as is KJ imo ,one left the other stayed but it's the same old story |
True, there are one or two posters who are somewhat repetitive in their bleakness. |
Yes of course its misleading. I recall Tom posting in a most convincing style that the loan was not real and then when he backed off a bit claimed it hadn't been drawn upon when management had clearly told us it had.
I don't think anyone has any doubts about the loan now, it's real and it has been drawn down.
You get an idea who to take seriously but newcomers are in danger of being misled. |
I'm not sure how this will pan out, but to de ramp a share on guess info. Which is NOT warranted on any forum is misleading. People should be told so. |
Monster, it’s possible to be not sure. I’m often not sure about this stock. Many things in life are not black or white. |
Still de ramping. Your either, in or out. |
I agree with a lot of your recent comments bones698 but I don't see what they could use instead of ST discs, there are no options for alternative supply. Although ST and Brembo both make ceramic discs they are different in design, size and performance. |
The £4m advance payments represent only 1% of the order book. Must be some further potential from this given the poor operating yields. Actually quite impressive they've navigated that operational underperformance. The key risk for us minority shareholders is huge discounted dilution but quite clearly the Management/Insiders don't want that and believe it is not warranted.
Worth re-iterating they set their options at 1.7p in September so must believe a significant ahare price turnaround is possible.
And clearly TR1 agrees. Doubt it is a punt. Maybe has friends who have some knowledge of this situation or similar turnarounds. |
 Seems a serious deckchair just got reinforced 04-Feb-2025
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Anyway at least the drawdown occured and Tom won't be able to make claims the loan funds don't exist.
You certainly have to be careful of some of the rubbish written on this BB amongst all the good posts. |
KJ. "Frustratingly our efforts have not yielded the results we expect of ourselves or at the levels of demand our customers require." Doesn't really inspire confidence about the possibility of success. They have been at trying to manufacture discs in volume for some time now. And have not been successful. |
Amt. The loan draw down is secured and they were likley contractuallu bound to permit draw down. The OEMs have advanced seemingly on an unsecured basis but then they really need their discs. All the talk about being behind the company but Q4 must have been really annoying for the OEMs |
TR-1 out, investor RNS buying increased by 2% yesterday! |
Yes no doubt he has done his due diligence.
Bones the loan draw down would not have occured if there was any risk of admin. The backer would not have released the funds.
Somehow they seem to have bought themselves more time.
Whether after 3 years they can resolve all outstanding issues in the next 6 months I dont know. |
So have a lot of other people over the years to no avail |
Kave S seems to believe.. |
Furthermore, backing from customers has included increased pricing, funded manufacturing expertise and cash advances of over £4m in 2025 to support the Company's working capital requirement
That does not mean they have 4m in cash now that has been used this year as working capital as they ran out pretty much by end of 2024 .
It's only still afloat because GM have funded it but how long will they continue to do that given the millions it's costing per month .
They have had close to 30m in 15 months now to produce 8m of discs at a yield of between 52 and 78% . Sorry but this is not a business model that can or will succeed . Little to no improvement over that period and the losses are racking up . Sooner or later someone will have to pull the plug .
Top and bottom of it is they can't produce and make discs reliably,profitably or in the volumes required and they have been trying to for some time but not getting there in any shape or form . Glad I stayed out with KJ there it was likely to happen .
So the 4m given to them to keep going I suspect would be recouped in the form of discs they produce in the future if there eis one ? That would mean another issue down the line . The debts are racking up here and I don't see how they can service them or fund continuing operations imo
Queue the Muppet theme tune here |
"There is also the possibility of Chinese coming in."
Might not get credit on a takeaway now so let's hope they have enough cash left to pay for it! |
It's also, as usual, very poorly drafted. |
That is an horrendous update.....going to run out of cash it seems. |
Bones it says £4m cash advances in 2025. The £0.5m was at year end. But likely a huge chunk of it was used to catch up supplier positions and enable production to start again. Looks like it ground to a halt just about in Q4. |
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