Stilo Share Discussion Threads

[stilolosses] 07/4/2019 17:17

I'm glad I sold a large amount at 4 pence myself but just because I am a shareholder I am not one of those holders who will paint a rosy picture when it is anything but.

In life you lose some and at other times you make.

[escapetohome] 07/4/2019 17:12

Not a chance im selling mine.

Bring on the delist.

[stilolosses] 07/4/2019 16:27

I believe, and time will tell, that the share price will continue to fall. The reasons for this being the company sees the current year as difficult and have now started talking about listing costs.

It is with regret that I say this about my investment Mudbath, but with no real growth prospects for Stilo in terms of the very, very, very lowly priced Authorbridge product that will take "multiple years" to develop(5 years and counting), we are only left with Omnimark which has been around for 25 years and Migrate which too has been around for over 10 years now.

What a terrible sad state of affairs and what a pickle management has got themselves into.

The very little that they make on one hand they lose elsewhere.

In terms of hysteria over Authorbridge, far from it!

I have been at pains to point out its lack of progress and its inability to make any real money and it is somewhat satisfying to learn that management too have now come out and stated the obvious. Nice of them to now say that if it is used by a company it is likely to only be used on a low scale like 100s and not 1000s.

How you can possibly continue to mislead us by suggesting that Authorbridge revenues will increase significantly beggars belief.

Lets put it this way. After around 5 years Stilo has managed to only get 5 customers. We all know that Authorbridge is a very, very, very, very low priced product at £75 per user per year.

So being, very, very, very, very realistic, sensible and so, so, so incredibly and massively generous to Stilo, here is my what can only be described as a "sensible and realistic" calculation on 5 new customers in the next 1 to 2 years:

5 customers each having a couple of hundred users each only make about £75k revenues over the 1 to 2 years for Authorbridge from all of those 5 customers combined.

Lets not forget the £400k plus in lost revenues during 2018. So, all in all, not much really, is it for a fantastic product.

Like I said though, I am being very, very realistic and generous suggesting they will get 5 new customers for Authorbridge over the next 1 to 2 years when it has taken them 5 years plus to get 5 customers.

Lol you couldn't really make it up could you?

In the meantime we are likely to have that delisting.

Course, it is not unusual for you to continue misleading about Authorbridge and its earnings.

The sad fact of the matter is that whatever little money Authorbridge will make with one hand management will lose with the other hand.

We are where we are because of Stilo management..

[mudbath] 07/4/2019 15:37

Delisting

Yes,the price can fall.

Your numbers 2 and 3 however are totally inaccurate.

If you believe in STL as an investment,as you obviously do not,then one follows the company as it leaves AIM where it remains possible to trade,often at a much higher price.
As for "3",no one obliges the investor to "more or less accept an offer for a fraction of what you paid".

Why the hysteria over AuthorBridge,for it its development continues to progress well, whilst revenues generated are increasing significantly?

Leave it with you.

[stilolosses] 07/4/2019 14:19

You have done very, very well not to mention anything about Authorbridge.

Never mind about the Harvard or Reginald report Mudbath!

So I take it you no longer even want to talk about Authorbridge.

In all fairness, it does not surprise me in the slightest.

Maybe the desire for a desisting would have a discernible impact on you.

We all know what nearly ALWAYS happens when a share is delisted:

So which one do you agree with normally happens during a delisting: 1,2 or 3?

1. The price falls through the floor?

2. You are left with shares that you can no longer trade in?

3. You end up having to more or less accept an offer for a fraction of what you paid?

I know the truth sometimes hurts Mudbath but like I have said many times before once things started to go horribly wrong with Stilo on absolutely all fronts I tried to warn everybody but all you could do was give us false hope and lead us down a dark alley.

I understand that before they are delisted you will want to trade another 20 million shares which is quite natural and normal.

Maybe I should simply be very, very, very, very quiet and say nothing and pretend everything at Stilo as well as a future delisting is not going to happen just for your individual benefit so that you can trade another 20 million shares on the hush, hush!

[mudbath] 07/4/2019 13:41

According to the Harvard Business review,

"Harsh critics are often talented, intelligent, and productive people. Unfortunately, they have a flaw that compels them to disparage others – almost, at times, as though they are diagnosing an illness in need of eradication. It seems they’re living according to the famous quip by Mark Twain: “Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits.”

In the language of the self-help and recovery movements, these folks are often suffering from a disorder known as, “If You Spot It, You Got It [IYSIYGI].” It works like this: You notice that colleague X has what is, in your mind, is an affliction. You then take it upon yourself to castigate him for his affliction — irrespective of whether or not it impairs his on-the-job performance or has a negative effect on group morale.

What makes this dynamic so ugly is that unbeknownst to the person under attack, the critic is being driven to criticize by a repressed-and-intolerable feeling that he’s “got” what he deplores in others."

Ring any bells StiloLosses ?
After all,was it not the oracle himself who decreed that we should," throw everything at Stilo, even the kitchen sink",just before everything went pear shaped?

No doubt you will change your mind(for the umpteenth time)about Stilo's prospects in due course;not that this would have any discernible impact on how I view the potential for STL to generate further capital gains.

[stilolosses] 06/4/2019 11:32

Anybody would really think that you are culpable in leading us down a blind alley yet again Mudbath.

As a current shareholder in Stilo it never was simply about rolling over and accepting at face value what management said and, indeed, what you went on about over the years.

I have no pleasure in reminding you that more or less everything that I said about Stilo, its management, its products and financials turned out to be "spot on". Look where we are now old boy!

It is only right now that you should come out of your comfort zone, come out of your shell, take some responsibility and answer the the following 10 questions about Authorbridge. That's if you can even remember that they still have Authorbridge:

1. Why has management now started to say that Authorbridge could be used (if used at all really) across a network in ONLY the hundreds and not the thousands like they use to say all those years back?

2. Management now say Authorbridge is making traction. Does this mean another few customers over the next 5 years or another few customers over the next 10 years?

3. Management also now says that Authorbridge isn't going to make them much money for some years yet. Do you think they will be able to make any amount of money from Authorbridge over the next 5 years or the next 10 years?

4. Why has management only now decided to tell us that quality competition exists for Authorbridge after all those years of keeping it quiet? (5 years)

5. Over the years management has spent lots of money in developing then discontinuing product after product after product. Do you think they could cut their losses and discontinue Authorbridge or do you think they will now just continue with it?

6. Why is Authorbridge such a low, low, low, low cost product, only costing around $100 per year per user when it is used?

7. Should a product costing as little as $100 per user not have been taken up after being on the market for all those years?

8. Management has also tried giving Authorbridge away for free on several occasions. Why has there still not been an uptake on something that has been offered for free?

9. Is there anything else management can do to get anybody else to purchase a low cost product like Authorbridge any sooner to make up for the £400k plus loss revenues elsewhere?

10. Is there life for Stilo International apart from the now not so popular Authorbridge?

Like I said earlier, I really do think that you are culpable in leading us down a blind alley yet again and you should now stand up and take responsibility for your misdemeanors in relation to Stilo International like a gentleman that you are.

Mind you, I think there is more chance of us sorting out Brexit than there is of you answering the questions that I have put to you.

Your continuous inability to address these all important Authorbridge matters really do speak volumes, especially when you was the one that spoke so, so, so, so, so, so highly of it since its inception all those years ago.

[rcturner2] 02/4/2019 13:05

I must admit any sane person would have moved on from their losses years ago. My brother in law holds these for his sins and recommended them to me. Fortunately I did not buy. Seems like yet another useless company on AIM to add to the very long list.

[escapetohome] 01/4/2019 23:16

Who would indeed want to buy Stilo International?
Whats the market cap here? 2.68 mill according to the header.

Surely stl may be attractive for its intangibles , 20 year ibm relationship, cross selling opportunity?

Come on comapnies! Buy stilo international and relieve STl losses of having to post to this bb.

[stilolosses] 01/4/2019 23:02

Well I am truly shocked that you have decided to address some important questions Mudbath. It doesn't hurt does it?

Let's start with the one with IBM. The relationship they have with regards to Omnimark.

No matter how important you make this 20 year old contract appear it only raises peanuts in terms of revenues, just a few thousand pounds. Hardly worth anything to Stilo even if they lost it.

In fact, it's not that one I was referring to.

Remember the good old days when Migrate came out and you told everybody how much Stilo was going to raise just with IBM. As we all now know, peanuts. That's 10 years on.

Now let's look at the delisting.

Glad you can read between the lines here too.

Course they want a delisting. They have now started to make some noise to start that process.

Who in their right mind would ever want to buy a company in such a small, miniscule market, a company that hardly generates anything serious. A few hundred thousand in repeated revenues, a product in Authorbridge that 5 years on will soon be 10 years on which is so, so, so, so low cost which will hardly make anything for years and years to come, and you think somebody is going to come and buy Stilo out.

I don't think so. That will never happen. If Stilo was that good it would have been bought out 25 years ago lol.

Management will probably be forced to delist when the value keeps dropping as they continue to burn cash on products that nobody want.

David and Les will have no choice but to delist is the most likely scenario.

So Stilo are recruiting again to sell good old Migrate. We all know what happened when they did a massive recruitment drive in 2018.

Nothing! Sorry!

Everything went into reverse and they decided to pull some products off the market altogether.

So they have another mini recruitment drive but they are hoping to recruit a graduate. You know what they say. "Pay peanuts and you get peanuts".

I can certainly help tell you how successful they are going to be with their latest attempt to recruit to flog good old Migrate.

I expect revenues to drop in 2019. If they are up then they will only be up by about 1% and for Stilo that would be a very good year end result after losing around £450k last year.

In the meantime, maybe, just maybe, you can also address the bit about Authorbridge and why it is that it is so, so, so low cost in a miniscule market with better competition elsewhere.

Maybe you can tell us why that product too is not and will not sell for the next 5 years at least. If some shares are achieved these will be on the same levels of the last 5 years.

[mudbath] 01/4/2019 13:06

As for delisting at a strike price of 1 pence;you are deluded SL.

This would be below cash, would ignore recurring revenues and a globally utilised software suite.

STL might indeed choose to leave AIM but I believe it would be advantageous for any holder to keep a tight grip of their stock, as David and Les will be looking for several times the current M/C on the occasion of any decision to relinquish control.

[mudbath] 01/4/2019 12:53

IBM
As the world’s largest IT and consulting services company, IBM sells
thousands of technical products and related services all around the
globe. For every device, software package and service, it publishes
multi-lingual manuals, technical specifications, datasheets, brochures,
online tutorials, help pages and more. With such a colossal volume of
content to manage, the company uses Stilo’s OmniMark technology to
convert thousands of documents into multiple formats and support the
work of 1,500 professional technical authors who produce IBM product
publications.

Stilo International..Supporting 1,500 global technical authors
Converting more than a billion words a year from DITA.
and other source formats.

[stilolosses] 31/3/2019 23:04

Remember the good old days Mud when you use to tell everybody that IBM had billions and billions of documents that they needed converting..........

Then some years on reality hit in!

As we all now know Stilo managment has been at pains to tell everybody that after 10 years plus they have only ever managed to convert a paltry 1 million documents across all its clients wherever they are after a period of 10 years plus.

My calculations make that about a shocking 100,000 documents or less over 10 years for their Migrate product that you spoke so, so, so highly about over the years.

Remember, thats across all its customers over a period of over 10 years!

I understand why you do not want to respond back to the genuine questions that I put to you about Authorbridge and the very, very, very, very likely delisting that managment has now started to make some noise about.

[mudbath] 31/3/2019 20:39

SL
You derided my suggestion that you should focus on buying low and selling high.
Instead,whilst the share price was fluctuating between one and three pence,you chose to denigrate both the company and its BOD not to mention those posters who were filling their boots.
If I recollect accurately you then claimed an inside source to STL's prospects,turned bullish and started buying just as the share price got a bit toppy.
Now you are talking of a delisting scare level of 1pence !
Bring it on, for I will be at the front of the queue to load up once again.

[stilolosses] 30/3/2019 10:46

Mudbath my door is always open should you need any further clarification on the current status of Stilo International.

Further, please do feel free to offer your reasons as to why Authorbridge never did take off after about 5 years of trying other than the reasons that I have given on numerous occasions: No demand; minute market size; better competition; an incredibly low, low, low cost product etc, etc, etc!

[lukead] 29/3/2019 15:27

That michaelmouse and his rubbish blog have stitched some poor people up good and proper, trak is another failure of his,

[stilolosses] 28/3/2019 07:15

I forgot Escape!

Also spot on about them not being able to make any acquisition, confirmed now with their dwindling cash, profits and revenues, not to mention them now moaning about the listing costs let alone make any an acquisition;

Spot on about no special dividends lol, everything is now dwindling;

I was wrong, your right, about the long-term outlook but I did put that right a very long time ago;

Spot on though too that I invested here and sold a large amount at the 4p level when I had the chance.

[escapetohome] 28/3/2019 00:14

There are 2 things where i find you have not been spot on.

You invested in Stilo International. Wrong.

You initially bullish long term. Wrong.

For everything else you have been spot on Stilo losses.

[stilolosses] 27/3/2019 22:59

Most definitely spot on about professional market experts telling us year after year the the current share price is a buy so they can trade another 20 million shares on the quiet.

Most definitely spot on also about the company having an agenda, now speaking about listing costs which will result in the share price falling through the floor.

Spot on too that management's statement about the listing costs is probably the only and single most important bit in their 2018 end of year report.

What's the bet it will be worth less than a penny before it is delisted?

Spot on indeed!

Not my fault I have been spot on.

Sorry!

[mudbath] 27/3/2019 21:10

If you have been "spot on" in calling STL then you must have made a bundle of cash.

Should this be the case then well done indeed.

[stilolosses] 26/3/2019 23:18

Not seemingly a small market cap.

Categorically a very, very, very small market cap. Categorically!

Like I have been saying for some time now.

To confirm this also you only have to look at this small world leading company Stilo's dwindling revenues on what was already small, tiny revenues anyway.

How much will those revenues drop by in 2019 with Authorbridge being a very, very, very low cost product in a tiny market with quality competition?

In the meantime Stilo will be able to rely on good old Migrate and the other yet undeveloped Optimizer. Let's not forget Omnimark just for good measure.

[escapetohome] 26/3/2019 22:57

A lackluster performance.

Share price going nowhere.

Management paralysed.

Seemingly a very small market.

Much much better out there eg Tern , byot, and others.