Stilo Share Discussion Threads

[mudbath] 24/2/2019 20:41

BYOTROL AND TERN it is then!

(Large)

[stilolosses] 24/2/2019 11:27

Stilo International will, as we all know, soon publish their normalised 12 month end results.

I wonder if they will be putting out a short statement for the last 12 months and outlook similar to the one below where they will basically say yet again:

"It is what it is!"

In all honesty, I think that really should cover the last 12 months and the next 5 years.

Course, others will argue that Authorbridge with its 3rd launch will change things even if Migrate and Omnimark are in reverse or static at the best just like everything else.

Management's latest favourite phrase "multiple years" may still be in there.

BYOTROL or TERN it is then!

[mudbath] 02/2/2019 10:52

As you say ,StiloLosses, Byotrol are powering ahead with much,much more to come.

[stilolosses] 02/2/2019 10:42

Good morning Mudbath.

Like Stilo management have been saying in some of their recent webinars, they have been very active on all fronts for over 25 years now.

In all honesty you don@t need to be a "professional market expert" when it comes to thinking about the "future inflection point when the Stilo share price starts to reflect the undoubted value of its IP".

The answer being "multiple years!" Maybe another 25 years.

Will certainly be interesting when they post their 2018 year results. I wonder if management will "regurgitate" the information on how fantastic Migrate Jats and Authrbridge Jats is going to be too. Some fantastic products here that they have been developing for some time now......

Oops sorry! I forgot! Looks like those lines have recently been simply discontinued on the quiet. Classic Stilo management traits. Bang on about something for years and years and then quietly slip it out the back door and start all over again with some new products.

Going forward, no doubt, just like the last 25 years, they will be reporting the "remarkable outlook" for their new products like Authorbridge 3 etc, etc, etc. Problem is they have always had the same stance and expectations on anything they do.

Don't worry though as i'm sure they will put out a lot of information out there that will allow you to deal another 20 million shares.

You just need to be a little patient really.

My advice to you is that you need to get cracking and you need to start putting in place another strategy based on your normal deceit and deception if you want to trade another 20 million shares in Stilo International.

Roll on 2030! Enough time during the next few years for Stilo to launch and then to discontinue some more world leading products.

Then again, in that time I am sure they will win over some new customers whilst dropping some significant small ones to the tune of abut £350k plus!

Revenues down!
Profits down!
Cash in the bank down!
Share price down!
Loss of Omnimark customers!
Loss of Migrate customers!
Jats Migrate quietly discontinued!
Jats Authorbridge quietly discontinued!

Least they are able to increase the already paltry dividend!

Nevertheless, it all looks rosy going forward. A walk in the park really for Stilo management just like the last 25 years.

Come on management. Give us some more juicy and enriching "could be" potential in your outlook report.

Mind you, I took the liberty to look at several years of their outlook reports which unfortunately never did materialise.

The name of the game being multiple years if never!

My advice to management would be not to "regurgitate" going forward and to try to paint the story differently.

In closing, I don't see why management cannot just report their full year 2018 numbers a few weeks early like on Monday morning as all they really need to do is to "copy and paste" the last 25 years of reporting results.

[mudbath] 02/2/2019 09:29

BYOT doing good though whilst StiloLosses wastes his life regurgitating earlier STL postings .
What interests us here,SL,is the timing of that future inflection point when the Stilo share price starts to reflect the undoubted value of its IP.

[stilolosses] 31/1/2019 23:40

Come get it!

Authorbridge 3 now being offered for free on a trial. Just like version 1 and version 2 was offered for free during the last 3 or 4 years or so.

Fantastic webinar on Authorbridge version 3. Absolutely fantastic but who is going to buy it and make up for losses of revenues in Omnimark and Migrate.

How many multiple years of waiting before we see some pick up of revenues and profits.

Products in Migrate Jats and Authorbridge Jats no longer on their books either even though management have been saying for years that this was a new area of business.

The good news is that Stilo management is once again throwing Authorbridge out there for free.

Again, like normal, I think loads of interest will be engaged but once people have had it free for a bit they will do what they normally do and say thank you but no thank you. Let's not forget Authorbridge 1 and Authorbridge 2 was thrown out as a freebie too and was not taken up.

No mention in the webinar as to why management no longer carry Jats Migrate or Jats Authorbridge.

Let's see how 2018 was in terms of numbers.

No doubt they will make the normal promises in 2019 like they have done for multiple years.

In closing, will be very interesting to see if they are going to put anything at all in their 2018 end results about poor old Migrate Jats or Authorbridge Jats. After all, they have been going on about this too in the last many years of reporting.

Course, I could, but I wouldn't, give false and misleading and highly incorrect information in order to buy and sell another 20 million shares like my best friend and the highly renowned professional market expert....mentioning no names.

[stilolosses] 15/1/2019 12:23

Well this is what they say about what AuthorBridge has offered "since inception".

These are Stilo managements words and not mine:

"Since its inception, AuthorBridge has provide SMEs with a truly unique guided and fluid authoring experience. Specifically designed for users with no knowledge of DITA or XML, it has helped organizations rapidly roll out DITA authoring to non-ID professionals in marketing, engineering, training and support".

To all and sundry this sounds plausibale and very genuine.

However, what is very interesting is the bit where they say: "It has helped organizations rapidly roll out DITA authoring to non-ID professionals in marketing, engineering, training and support".

Unforunately, this is where it is highly misleading because as we all know it has only done this for 2 or 3 organisations on an incredibly minute and miniscule scale. The finacical contribution of those organisations have been just a few thousand dollars here or there. Nothing worthy in terms of financials.

Disappointingly but not surprisingly it has taken them several years to get to this point. 4 or 5 years to get 2 or 3 customers on board with AuthorBridge versions 1 and 2 but we will have level 3 coming out some time soon in 2019. Course, it took them nearly 2 years to get version 3 ready but at least it will be out some time soon.

No doubt, we will get the same old experts making the same old excuses when it becomes very apparent as the what the full 2019 revenues and profits will be with the contribution of AuthorBridge version 3 on board. It will be one excuse after the other.

What Stilo makes with one hand they lose with the other hand.

2018 results will also soon be out. No doubt we will again be told that are super, fantatic and a great set of numbers.

I wonder if management will talk about ditching Jats Dita and AuthorBridge Dita in those results!

Lets not forget what management has said about Author Bridge......"That it is a multiple year effort"

Omnimark to date has been a multi year effort of 20 years plus and lets not forget Migrate as that too has been a multiple year effort of around 11 years!

[stilolosses] 14/1/2019 00:01

Then again, maybe we can now all start speaking very, very highly of AuthorBridge version 3 and give it the normal hype as always.

Maybe we should now help some of our professional market experts to buy and sell another 20 million Stilo shares.

Why not?

Just make it up as we go along.

Amazing, though, how they are up there first to inform us all of new developments but never say anything when it doesn't suit them. Like when Stilo decides to discontinue some of there products.

But like I said: "I won't tell anybody if you don't!".

Annual report to follow in not too long now.

No doubt 2019 is yet again going to be the year it happens just like the last 2 decades.

Looks like the share price is now going to explode with management now ditching Migrate Jats and AuthorBridge Jats and replacing them with version 3 of AuthorBridge Dita and Dita OptimizeR.

Just a walk in the park really for Stilo to make up those loss revenues. Easy as 1,2,3.

Just watch the revenues and profits pouring in anytime soon.

[stilolosses] 13/1/2019 23:57

"Be quiet! I won't tell anybody if you don't"

So now that Stilo is launching version 3 of AuthorBridge it would appear that they have decided to discontinue and look the other way with their other products in Migrate XML Jats and AuthorBridge Jats. Looks like to me that they have decided to remove these altogether from their offerings on their website. No doubt the decision was made because management found out that nobody wanted those products either. Beggars belief really. I wonder thy they have now decided to remove Migrate Jats and Omnimark Jats. After all, they have been saying in their annual reports that this "could represent promising new business for Stilo".

Funny how Stilo throughout the years have and continues to use the word "could!".

Scandalous really that they have now removed these products altogether.

Ah well! Least we now have version 3 of Authorbridge and DitaOptimizerR as the new products that professional market experts will tell us are going to fly off the shelves.

As we all know, ever since AuthorBridge was launched it has been "excelling all the time. Version 1 excelled as did version 2".

Problem is they could not even give versions 1 and 2 of AuthorBridge away for free and as Stilo subsequently found out they were only able to sell AuthorBridge to 2 or 3 customers over the last 3 or 4 years on a very small scale.

Stilo offered AuthorBridge versions 1 and 2 as freebies during and after launch but despite it being thrown out there users decided to plod along with other tools which were available to them.

No doubt version 3 will raise the bar in equal measures as the previous versions. Stilo will be launching AuthorBridge version 3 with exactly the same kind of hype and expectation. No doubt they will soon start talking about versions 4 which will come out over the next 24 to 36 months.

Similar kind of hype to the last 15 or so versions of Omnimark and the 4 or 5 versions of Migrate over the last 2 decades.

So they currently have Omnimark, Migrate Dita, AuthorBridge Dita and DitaOptimizerR but minus Migrate Dita and AuthorBridge Dita.

Its quite common for Stilo to launch new products ever 2 to 3 years, hype them up and then to quietly and discreetly discontinue some of them by slipping them out of the back door as if they didn't exist. Migrate Jats, Jetview, AuthorBridge Jats and SAPS to mention just a few.

I have no doubt that AuthorBridge version 3 will quite comfortably make up the £300 to £400k in loss revenues for Migrate and Omnimark quite easily over the next year or few.

Like I have always said. "What Stilo is able to make good with one hand, they are able to make bad with the other. 2 steps forward and 3 steps back again. Or is it 4 steps forward and 9 steps backwards.

[mudbath] 13/1/2019 21:20

Thanks`michaelmouse for the link, which evidences that when Mike Iantosca contributed to our conversation 12 months ago,it seems that Stilo were listening :-

"I expect Stilo will add DITAMap support soon, which will complete the core function and essential to be able to displace other full-featured competitors. Along with their turn key cloud version and ability to integrate with other CMS platforms, Stilo has in its hands what I consider to be the Holy Grail of DITA/intelligent content authoring - exceptional simplicity (no need to know or see DITA with the the greatest DITA capability for an all-visual DITA authoring tool), lowest cost offering, least-obtrusive model that ensures content consistency across multiple content creators, integration with AI content authoring assist (Acrolinx), and much more. Had authoring tools like AB been around years ago, DITA would be dominating much more than it has to date. A few facts haven't and won't change: content automation is forever dependent on adding author intent and metadata on which document processing automation at scale hinges. Every other method of doing that (CMS-driven content creation for example), provides a poor authoring experience that writers despise (forms, templates etc). Next, consider the emerging cognitive frontier - structured 'chunking' and sub-grouping of topics, including micro-documents, will be required to scale and prepare any large content corpus for cognitive consumption - such as bots whose content isn't hard-coded. That, plus accelerated training of cognitive content at scale will require structured content plus AI-assisted attribution of taxonomic metadata. I think Stilo AB is positioned well - success will be more about execution than the technology at this point in my opinion.

I have other wishes for the expansion of AB. I'd like to see them add support for Markdown and GitHub in addition to DITA, be able to integrate the DITA Open Source Toolkit into the UI to add integrated output generation, and a few more things to broaden the market appeal with a turn-key solution - but these ought to come with more development time if Stilo sees the value."

[michaelmouse] 12/1/2019 11:40

"Web-based authoring tools are improving all the time, but with the upcoming release of AuthorBridge v3, Stilo is setting new standards for ease-of-use and performance for SMEs in DITA authoring environments.

Since its inception, AuthorBridge has provided SMEs with a truly unique guided and fluid authoring experience. Specifically designed for users with no knowledge of DITA or XML, it has helped organizations rapidly roll out DITA authoring to non-ID professionals in marketing, engineering, training and support.

To do this well requires sophisticated DITA content processing ‘under the hood’ and this is where AuthorBridge excels."

[mudbath] 04/1/2019 16:45

TERN pumped ?
You jest clocktower,for the share has been the subject of persistent orchestrated shorting and denigration over the past 6 months.

[escapetohome] 04/1/2019 16:15

Thanks Mudbath , Ive had them on my watchlist for ages, but missed the very bottom.

I may take a few.

[clocktower] 04/1/2019 14:27

If it is giving the pump treatment half as much as Tern then it should do well for you mudbath. Good Luck.

[mudbath] 04/1/2019 14:15

Hello escapetohome.

Byotrol has £3million in cash.
The Directors bought shares and raised the cash @ 4 pence per share very recently.
BYOT has just bought Medimark Scientific,a dynamic and profitable company part funded in cash and shares(again @ 4 pence)where there are notable synergies to be exploited.
EPA approval has been gained for Byotrol24 in the US where their newly appointed Marketing Officer is high profile and boasts a great track record in launching new products.

In last months interims the BOD had this to say:-

"With our properly resourced and scaled sales team, healthy cash position and routes to market for our products now identified and becoming increasingly established we believe Byotrol has never been in a stronger and more exciting position." (18th Dec 2018)

The only reason that the share price is so low is that former 29% holder,Ruffer,dumped 11 million shares in December at just 1.55pence.

I would expect a good year for Byotrol and its share price.
(I continue to hold TERN)

[escapetohome] 04/1/2019 12:49

Is there any reason in particular youre plumping for BYOT mudbath?

Whats the prospect of it winning orders against stiff competition?

How much debt does it carry?

Do you think its way oversold?

[mudbath] 04/1/2019 12:40

Happy new year !

Very quiet here,so far.

After the success of TERN as my share for 2018;could I propose BYOT to replace it in 2019.Coincidentally the share price mirrors that at which TERN commenced its climb;namely 2p.

[stilolosses] 07/11/2018 10:34

Good morning mud!

I know you have me on your really, really effective filter system that is continuing “evolving!R21; during the so called “evolutionR21; process.

I was speaking to Mohammed in the mountains today. Following on from this I have a message for you....................though I am not sure it will get though to you due to your filter system.

Is there any chance you can make some further transactions in Stilo shares. After all, you have traded around 20 million shares during the last 10 years.

Is there any chane you can sort it for us and purchase some more shares.

You see, Mohammed in the mountains, told me that in this way it will at least cause the share price to increase over the next year or so and when it does…….Bingo you can sell some and make more stunning and substantial gains.

Course, with this being a multi year and incremental development stage company as stated by Stilo management, the price will fall again and you can then come back in and trade some more and take your trading from the current 20 million to 40 million shares.

By the way, Mohammed in the mountains did mention that it is quite normal behaviour for those with an interest in shares to continue throwing out false and fictitious information on Stilo International in order to continue trading on ups and downs. (20 million buys and sells for you so far).

Mind you, in your defence, I did tell Mohammed as he came out of the mountain, that you would never do any such thing.

Mohammed is concerned though that you may not get my message due to you having me on filter.

In closing, you probably are right in saying that you are “pretty qualified” in knowing that the shares are more illiquid now than they ever have been over the last 10 years.

Maybe they were just as illiquid when David Ashman and his sons bought around 20 million shares from their mates at Brewins.

[stilolosses] 06/11/2018 13:43

Well you need to get cracking on as there are 100 million plus shares that you can trade in.

After all, you are the "resident professional market expert!"

Do let us all know when you buy your next batch.

Course, you will let us all know when you next sell again during the "evolution!"

[mudbath] 06/11/2018 13:33

"Stilo shares being more illiquid now more than at any time during the last 10 years is a load of rubbish."(StiloLosses)

Well having bought and sold around 20 million shares over the past 10 years,I feel pretty qualified to make the observation that trading has been particularly difficult over the past 3 months or so.

The MMs continue to seek shares whilst concurrently remaining reluctant to part with any in size.

[stilolosses] 06/11/2018 12:24

I think Stilo management are the ones that always have the last word.

One can argue that Stilo management’s “contribution” in their annual reports ever since the company was put together have been more of the same too.

I certainly cannot argue with you about some making “significant gains” I’m sure some will continue to do the same.

Course; there are loads of investors out there that have made “significant losses”.

Stilo has always been at an interesting point in terms of “developments etc, etc, etc…”

One only has to see all there very, very, very interesting “developments” that they have spoke about over the 20 years or so.

Stilo shares being more illiquid now more than at any time during the last 10 years is a load of rubbish.

The share price will continue to fluctuate like normal at these levels.

I’m sure there will continue to be a stampede to “buy and sell” Stilo shares over the next 20 years or so. Nothing different here.

So Les Burnham says that the market is “evolving?R21;

It certainly is “evolving̶1;. I completely agree there.

You only have to read the last 20 years annual reports to get an understanding of how management have spoken about the “market evolving”.

It certainly has been “evolving̶1;.

The market has always been evolving in which Stilo operates but the problem Stilo have always had, even though it has “evolved”; and will continue to “evolve”, is that this is an incredibly small, miniscule, minute, tiny unnoticeable market, which has always been reflected in Stilo’s financials despite having products like Omnimark, Migrate and Authorbridge.

I will be more than happy to refer you back to this post about how the market is “evolving̶1; in, “say 2022” and demonstrate to you how this effected Stilo’s financials then.

Despite the market “evolving̶1; and continuing to “evolve”, Stilo’s customers and potential customers do one of 3 things and will continue to do one of 3 things: Do it themselves with all the free tools out there through third party contact; take their business to Stilo’s competitors or simply employ their own in-house staff and do it more cheaply.

These 3 methods, coupled with a incredibly small, miniscule, minute, tiny unnoticeable market, is Stilo’s competition. Always have been and always will be.


Oops I know you rather that I don’t mention it but can you recall the already low 2017 revenues that will dwindle by some £350,000 in this current year, even though the market is “evolving̶1;.

You should attend the next AGM in March 2019 and speak to management and ask them when they will ever make any decent revenues and profits and start moving forwards rather than backwards during the current new “evolution process” that you have been banging on about during the last 10 years.

Some have been talking about “evolutionR21; a lot longer like 20 years.

In closing, you have been talking about Stilo benefiting “substantially” for the last decade which too is more of the same.

Enjoy the ride!

[mudbath] 06/11/2018 10:44

Post away StiloLosses for we all know that you always have the final word.
Again,your latest "contribution" was just more of the same.

Some here have made significant gains and are intent upon replicating these.

Stilo for me is at an interesting point,both development wise and price wise.
It is proving a slow process to acquire STL shares for the market in them is more illiquid than I have ever experienced over the past 10 years.
Potential investors have to wait on each sale and when these occur there is something of a stampede to mop them up;no wonder in view of the minimal market cap.
Les Burnham has said,many times,that the market is evolving and their is now evidence that this is becoming more material.

Evolution is a slow process,indeed one involving a step forward and(sometimes)two backwards;a pattern that for personal reasons you deem unacceptable.

Stilo remain well placed to benefit substantially...

Enjoy the ride !

[stilolosses] 05/11/2018 12:45

Does not matter about my comments clock. The Stilo share price is what it is.

Does not matter how much the Stilo share price goes up today or tomorrow as we all know it will do what it normally does after a few weeks or so.

I'm sure all those investors who have been waiting for decades will be absolutely delighted with the sudden increase today.

Management will reveal results in March. I'm sure they will reiterate the same old stance as normal.

"multi year endevour and incremental developments!"

Mind you, as a holder I am "absolutely delighted" that the share price has fallen of late and risen again to make up for those losses.

Absolutely incredible really!

Of course, as we all know, Stilolosses dictates the movement of Stilo International's share price anyway.

An absolutely wonderful increase of an incredible 9% today will make up, partly, for the substantial and sustained decrease in the share price of late though.

Upwards and forwards........ Or is it downwards and backwards!